Is there a class that automatically scales up summons?

[Orion Invictus]

Kinda tired of summons being useful for one or two fights (if that), then quickly becoming irrelevant even as meat shields.

[Wizard College Dropout]

Summons are pretty weak in general in 5E but they're using the revised Beastmaster Ranger which has a solid companion.

[Theta]

You get better summons at higher levels. Gotta use your low levels ones til then.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Wizard College Dropout:

Summons are pretty weak in general in 5E but they're using the revised Beastmaster Ranger which has a solid companion.

So there's no class that automatically scales up summons, right?

[Anima Mundi]

Spores Necro, even at earlier level, can make so many of them, that it's hard to make them irrelevant, they distract enemies enough and they even get a few chip damage hits often enough to make em solid.

Of course this only matters if you're soloing, because otherwise a party with 3 origins can still perform better. The only thing is that it gets annoying going through combat and controlling 10+ summons individually. Fun for a bit but then gets old.

Summons are more used as an extension of some casters DPS or utility output. Casters dont usually get multiattacks / extra actions like martial classes do, outside of multiclassing or Sorc metamagic.
This is the way to get that extra edge and bring them to balance with your companions, but they hardly become powerful on their own

[Anima Mundi]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Wizard College Dropout:

Summons are pretty weak in general in 5E but they're using the revised Beastmaster Ranger which has a solid companion.

So there's no class that automatically scales up summons, right?

Straight up scaling their stats? no. However there's certain class perks that will buff their use. Or in the case of necromancer upcasting raise dead for extra targets, or spores increasing the count of summons you have.
Or as you get higher in level you're able to summon more powerful beings, like eventually you get Elemental instead of minor elemental, and then you get Myrs.
That's about it

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Anima Mundi:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

So there's no class that automatically scales up summons, right?

Straight up scaling their stats? no.

That's all I wanted to know, thank you.

[victorvnv]

Summons aren’t terrible but the fact is that they put a ton of ridiculously OP items in late game and neither summons nor Druid forms scales with items.

So they end up feeling really weak by the final battle , and let’s not forget Withers who can respec the characters for free so that they can always optimize their builds around the OP items .

Summons DO scale as in you can upcast your lvl 5 elemental to a lvl 6 elemental and it gets more powerful, but that’s about it

[Anima Mundi]

Originally posted by victorvnv:

Summons aren’t terrible but the fact is that they put a ton of ridiculously OP items in late game and neither summons nor Druid forms scales with items.

So they end up feeling really weak by the final battle , and let’s not forget Withers who can respec the characters for free so that they can always optimize their builds around the OP items .

Summons DO scale as in you can upcast your lvl 5 elemental to a lvl 6 elemental and it gets more powerful, but that’s about it

Having played as a moon druid myself in BG3, and usually it being one of my fav classes, i gotta say, even with LArian's crazy homebrewed magic gear, i was still pulling a lot of weight all the way to the end in our coop campaign. Once you get your 3 multiattcks, a Myr shaped Moon Druid also deals pretty impressive damage, and the fact that they can "tank" better than any martial class is a bonus.

Add to that the extra utility spells you cast before shaping, or an extra Myr you summon + dryad + wood woad dude, and overall they're still pulling a lot of weight even at Lvl 12.

It's a shame Larian forgot to add some of this OP gear for wild shape druid, but then maybe they'd get a little too OP to be honest