Baldur's Gate 3

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Mörkö Oct 11, 2023 @ 3:38pm
Any spell or trick to find out if a person is a shapeshifter?
Title. Does anything give them away? Or maybe they have peanut allergy or something?
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AsianGirlLover Oct 11, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
The crossbow you get off of the Gur near Auntie Ethel’s house makes it obvious. If you have advantage on a target, it’s a doppleganger
Silyon Oct 11, 2023 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:
The crossbow you get off of the Gur near Auntie Ethel’s house makes it obvious. If you have advantage on a target, it’s a doppleganger

Same deal with the Emperor's Sword, deals extra damage to shapeshifters. I think they're immune to polymorph, but I'd need to check if it's true in BG3 or just a tabletop thing.

Now if you want a way that doesn't involve picking a fight with the suspect, not really. It's why well-played dopplegangers are legit scary.
Mörkö Oct 12, 2023 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:
The crossbow you get off of the Gur near Auntie Ethel’s house makes it obvious. If you have advantage on a target, it’s a doppleganger

They are then also shouldn't be targetable by spells against humanoids like hold person, since they are creatures and not humanoids.
I'm guessing their character sheet doesn't reflect this though? I forgot to check.

That said this psychopath lady in act 3 is slowly pissing me off though.
Stormtempter Oct 12, 2023 @ 1:03pm 
I used something similar when I was dealing with Mayrina clone and changed hag. Just mousing over with a ranged attack, one of the two Mayrina's had a waaaaaaay lower to-hit chance, which is guaranteed the hag.

I'd assume the same could be possible for doppels vs standard NPCs. A doppel should be tougher to hit, more combat ready, so your hit chance shouldn't be as high as if it was a normie civilian.

I could be wrong, as I have not tested it. I went with the method of 'if it attacks me and turns into a doppel upon death, its a shapeshifter', lol. Some of the conversation ones though, if you have Detect Thoughts, you can read the thoughts of the dopel or someone near them to get a clue as well.
DYNIA Oct 12, 2023 @ 1:10pm 
kill everyone 1st then start to ask question do they rly are dopers =D
A Wispy Willy Oct 12, 2023 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by Mörkö:
Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:
The crossbow you get off of the Gur near Auntie Ethel’s house makes it obvious. If you have advantage on a target, it’s a doppleganger

They are then also shouldn't be targetable by spells against humanoids like hold person, since they are creatures and not humanoids.
I'm guessing their character sheet doesn't reflect this though? I forgot to check.

That said this psychopath lady in act 3 is slowly pissing me off though.
All humanoids are creatures, but not all creatures are humanoids.
Cthulhu Oct 12, 2023 @ 1:14pm 
just examine it, if it is a monstruosity is a dopplercrap
Cthulhu Oct 12, 2023 @ 1:17pm 
Originally posted by Mörkö:
That said this psychopath lady in act 3 is slowly pissing me off though.

Orin? because im not sure she is the only psychopath lady but the most one untill now lol
Cthulhu Oct 12, 2023 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by Cthulhu:
Originally posted by Mörkö:
That said this psychopath lady in act 3 is slowly pissing me off though.

Orin? because im not sure she is the only psychopath lady but the most one untill now lol

oak father protect you, don't be afraid my friend she only wants to make you anxious and discourage because she is afraid of you
Rabbit Oct 12, 2023 @ 2:35pm 
The surprise Orin encounters are fun, let it roll! I'm actually not sure if this works on her, but for the regular dopplegangers examining them gives it away as others said
Stormtempter Oct 12, 2023 @ 3:26pm 
Orin encounters resolve themselves pretty well. I start chatting with someone, then they start to get weird dialog, then they want me to commit a bunch of murder, and I'm like ope, Orin is up to shennanigans again, lol.
Mörkö Oct 13, 2023 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:
The surprise Orin encounters are fun, let it roll! I'm actually not sure if this works on her, but for the regular dopplegangers examining them gives it away as others said
I got suspicious in one auto triggered dialogue. Then changed characters and inspected the kid, with which my main character is talking. Sure as hell the brat had inflated stats and legendary resistance etc lol. But she was still listed as humanoid.. so i casted hold person on her and she suddenly reverted to her true form and vanished after mumbling something joyful...
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