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Lunduke is the Trump of tech 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 12:59
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Give females proficiency in persuasion and penalty in intimidation and...
Since Larian is able to make a lot of changes to DnD 5e ruleset I suggest they also make females be less intimidating males. It's kind of stupid because IRL men are bigger and stronger than women and women are generally scared of men because of that.

Why is it only the drow race which adds these kind of gender differences where women are bigger and stronger than men. I think it should be likewise for human race in forgotten realms.

So women should be better at pursuasion than men but men should be better at intimidation.
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Disabled Velociraptor 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 12:00 
"to frighten or threaten someone, usually in order to persuade them to do something that you want them to do" - Intimidation.

You can be intimidated by going to work. You can be intimidated by a fridge freezer and it's complex instruction manual. You can also be intimidated by a drunk boyfriend who's going to beat on you. You can also be intimidated by a girlfriend who mentally manipulates you. There are MANY variations of intimidation both in it's effect and uses.

Suggesting that women can be any less intimidating than men is both ignorant and sexist.
dolby 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 1:14 
Well, there are more ways than one to intimidate someone that's the thing...having it locked under one stat is the problem... the second one is that you need two points in stat to even change anything In 5e.

So the whole race stats or lack of gender stats have little impact on it. But that's 5e oversimplified as always.
Anyway i don't really care about it much. But i can see why op would want to have effects like that and why other side doesn't want them... Normally games nowadays let you assign all sorts of traits positive and nagative and you can do whatever you want.

BG 3 lacks nagitive character traits in character creation. Backgrounds just don't cut it and are abit limiting, simple again it's 5e so...
最后由 dolby 编辑于; 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 1:16
Every woman is a treasure. Please respect them and their capabilities.

And forget about this gender mimimi.
PocketYoda 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 2:44 
引用自 Freak4Leeks
引用自 DanteYoda
I dunno Ork and Dwarf women seem very intimidating as do dragonborn and tiefling women.. Op our world is not the same as their world..

hence him saying

引用自 When the music ends...
I think it should be likewise for human race in forgotten realms.
Humans in forgotten Realms are not the same humans we have here, How long do you think these Steam customers would last in Forgotten realms.. 2 seconds?
Lλmbdλ 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 3:55 
引用自 Metallicus
If you think women can’t be intimidating it is because you haven’t dated one.

+1

OP is just a troll or dumb, can we move on ?
He is even not knowledgeable with D&D because he still think that muscular capacities influence Intimidation and Persuasion skills
Don't need to feed him people :BEjoyful:
Archery_ad7 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 4:16 
Make that only gay males can be spell casters lol. so I can make some Diva sorcerers and wizards 💅💅. Not counting warlocks since the power comes from a patron
dulany67 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 5:02 
If it were a thing, intimidate is the wrong malus. Strength, yes but bonus to wisdom.

Either way, this isn't going to happen and nothing is gained by having it happen, other than your personal immersion.
引用自 jasque101478
引用自 Metallicus
I disagree with the OPs opinion, but people that throw around terms like ‘misogyny’ spent too much time being indoctrinated by their woke college professor. It isn’t misogyny. It is just a bad idea.
Eh, I kinda see where you're coming from, but the OP's idea is based in a completely unrealistic worldview in which women fit within a single niche that he created in his warped imagination.

For me, the real problem is that he then wants to force that idea, through an escapist fantasy game, on ALL players, including those of the gender that he is trying to define.

It may not be misogyny, but I don't know what else you'd call it.
It's a scientific fact that women are generally smaller and weaker than men. Women also get pregnant and have boobs. Many physical differences between men and women which affect the way of life. I guess all these reasons combined is why generally men become protectors whos "job" is to defend women. Allthough in these modern civilized times the protector role isn't really needed so much any more, but I think it would in forgotten realms.

If a bonus in pursuasion or like someone suggested charisma, isn't enough then maybe we can also give women a bonus to crit against men because of their vulnerable nuts.
Metallicus 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 5:58 
引用自 jasque101478
Eh, I kinda see where you're coming from, but the OP's idea is based in a completely unrealistic worldview in which women fit within a single niche that he created in his warped imagination.

For me, the real problem is that he then wants to force that idea, through an escapist fantasy game, on ALL players, including those of the gender that he is trying to define.

It may not be misogyny, but I don't know what else you'd call it.
It's a scientific fact that women are generally smaller and weaker than men. Women also get pregnant and have boobs. Many physical differences between men and women which affect the way of life. I guess all these reasons combined is why generally men become protectors whos "job" is to defend women. Allthough in these modern civilized times the protector role isn't really needed so much any more, but I think it would in forgotten realms.

If a bonus in pursuasion or like someone suggested charisma, isn't enough then maybe we can also give women a bonus to crit against men because of their vulnerable nuts.

Please just stop…
引用自 Tinball
I do not know any woman that would be like 'sure, I'm cool with lower stats in this fantasy game, just because my character is female.'

If you and your table wants these kind of mods, then you and the gents have at it. Gygax himself stated this was a mistake and he never enforced it.

See why I've always argued D&D was a chauvinistic boys club in the beginning? These kind of posts confirm that it still exists. D&D isn't 'woke.' It's inclusive. If you cannot empathize from a females' point of view of by this is B.S. Then you are still a part of the problem.
But they don't have to play human race. There are many other races they can play. I think human race should mimic the irl human race.
Lunduke is the Trump of tech 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 6:42 
引用自 Brian Sirith
They don’t have to but they may want to. And if they want to play a female warrior they shouldn’t have to deal with a random penalty. There are no gender penalties in any race. Why should there be in humans?

I would also appreciate if my male spellcaster wasn’t saddled with a str bonus he doesn’t need and a persuasion penalty he doesn’t need either. If you want it, you have the tools to do it if you play a female character.
That is min maxing though. DnD isn't really made for that play style, it's made for role playing.
larhtas 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 6:51 
I have an idea. For you OP:
- When you create a male character. Just invest in intimidation.
- When you create a female character. Just not invest in intimidation.

And leave the rest of the world imagine their fantasy world the way they like it.
引用自 larhtas
And leave the rest of the world imagine their fantasy world the way they like it.
But you're not creating your own unique fantasy world. You're in the forgotten realms setting. You can't just imagine anything you like unless you create your own setting.
Young Clancey 2022 年 6 月 18 日 上午 7:19 
OP, it should be +1 to deception, not persuasion.
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