Spell stacking

[Alf Stewart]

is this a thing in in this version of d&g? one of the coolest things about the old baulders gates was ur wizards powering up and putting like 20 spells and buffs on them so they r like godlike powers and that was really cool. they were not too OP as spells didnt last forever but it added so much depth and tactics to the game. feels quite shallow on this version. they could cast multiple buffs on different party members, but with concentration and with less party members u basically just go thru the motions in the battles.

[Yojo0o]

Kinda sounds like you answered your own question there.

You say depth and tactics, I say it added tedium. "Prebuffing" just ate up time, for me. Figuring out how to balance your limited concentration, that's an actual tactical decision.

[Edstyles]

spellstacking is the most boring thing ever. Pathfinder likes to do this and it was 1 of the worst aspects about it with kingdom mechanic on top of it. Not to mention we playing turn based mode so makes even less sense to stack spells prefight.

[Alealexi]

No, prebuffing doesn't add depth or tactics. It just made it so you can rofl stomp you way past enemies and waste time casting alot of spells. If you want that I would suggest to look at pathfinder.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Nope, one of the key features of 5th edition is Bounded Accuracy, which has as one of it's explicit goals the prevention of such buff stacking.

[Hobocop]

Nah.

The best decision with unlimited spell stacking invariably becomes all of them to minimize the chance of being blindsided by preventable damage or status effects, and spamming rests to make sure you can have all of them and spend five minutes buffing before every difficult fight. It's as much 'going through the motions' as anything else.

It becomes an actual choice when I only have one concentration slot per character, and have to decide to prioritize a buff or crowd control spell.

Pillars of Eternity had a different tack of not allowing you to cast buff spells out of combat, which has it's own set of goofy issues like not being able to buff Perception to spot traps.

[WeenerTuck813]

You can buff stack it’s just not as OP.

Spells like Darkvision, longstrider, armor of Agathis, etc don’t require concentration.

It’s not a bunch of damage stacks or armor stacks but you can buff up party members.

[Alf Stewart]

lol u guys ever played bg1 or 2??

[Alf Stewart]

it was cool when ur mages could cast mirror image and stone skin and then still shoot missiles etc. they were powerful mages. i admit it got a bit over the top. but one at a time is kinda boring

[Alf Stewart]

like now if u cast a buff u cant cast a missile, because u break concentration

[RealDealBreaker]

Originally posted by Alf Stewart:

like now if u cast a buff u cant cast a missile, because u break concentration

no, you very much can cast magic missile when you have a buff that requires concentration active. If you are going to attempt to criticise a game/game system, then at least take a moment to fact check you argument.

[Яeplicant]

Originally posted by Alf Stewart:

lol u guys ever played bg1 or 2??

For some reason, I read it like the infamous "Don't you guys have phones?" line.

[Yojo0o]

We all know what you're talking about with BG1-2 buff stacking, we just don't like it. And no, you absolutely can cast Magic Missile after a buff spell, that's not how concentration works.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Alealexi:

No, prebuffing doesn't add depth or tactics. It just made it so you can rofl stomp you way past enemies and waste time casting alot of spells.

Or depending on the balance of the game, absolutely NEED to prebuff because the enemy stats are hysterically out of control in anticipation that the player will slather on a laundry list of buffs every time (see WoTR).

[Alealexi]

Originally posted by Alf Stewart:

like now if u cast a buff u cant cast a missile, because u break concentration

This sounds more like you are saying "I have never played BG3 or 5e so I'm just going to make up stuff to make it sound bad."

Please at least try to learn how things actually play.

[guard65]

Outside of bless the only way I would prebuff is if I died 5 times in a row and they have an auto buff button, I really hate clicking more than once for something I can just script out.