Is it just me or its kinda unfair?

[Haterade]

Let me explane a litle, im now max lvl ( 4 ) and when i enconter mobs of my lvl, they attack 2 time per turn, I only attack once, i know some of you might not see this has a big differance for some fight but, when you get agains 8 guys... who attack 2-3 time per turn, and some have combo attacks that does 3-4 hits... each does 8-22 damage... on chart that have max 30 hp. That's kinda unfair imo. I realy love the game doe, its just that right now, the completion ( of all the 1st act) is realy hard to get because of that, if i get unlucky ( and HO GOD we are in this game) i just die instantly vs trash mobs, which is kinda sad. I dont want to say the game is thrash because of that (it realy isnt) but , it makes it unnessecerly hard.

[sethmage]

lol, that was me yesterday
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/0/5087338135400700074/

[malaire]

Game is definitely "unfair" but many people like the challenge - it would be far too easy otherwise in my opinion.

There will be difficulty options later to make game better suit different players.

[SketchyCoffee]

The Gnoll Archers attack 3 times as well. Its hard I agree, unfair though I disagree.

Our brains can look at individual components and combine them at the most opportune time to maximize its effectiveness this is the "Mechanics" aspect of the game, or those familiar with MOBA's the combination/timing of abilities. The A.I. cant do these as well as a human can. So Gnolls get more attacks, some enemies have more hp etc.

Also, Ettercaps, Gnolls, a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ drider, phase spiders, minotaurs, and Bulettes are not level 1-5 encounters, yet they are present here for us because they are interesting. Its hard but not unfair.

[Dr.SwitchOff]

Originally posted by Haterade:

Let me explane a litle, im now max lvl ( 4 ) and when i enconter mobs of my lvl, they attack 2 time per turn, I only attack once, i know some of you might not see this has a big differance for some fight but, when you get agains 8 guys... who attack 2-3 time per turn, and some have combo attacks that does 3-4 hits... each does 8-22 damage... on chart that have max 30 hp. That's kinda unfair imo. I realy love the game doe, its just that right now, the completion ( of all the 1st act) is realy hard to get because of that, if i get unlucky ( and HO GOD we are in this game) i just die instantly vs trash mobs, which is kinda sad. I dont want to say the game is thrash because of that (it realy isnt) but , it makes it unnessecerly hard.

Ok, you are level 4, how many companions you have and what monsters are you having trouble at? What classes you have in group?

[apocryphalbob]

It's almost as if some people have never played D&D. Ridiculous I know.

[Migalouch]

D&D just gets unfair when that level 5 cap is hit. Sure it sucks, but the thing is that's intended so that when YOU get level 5 lower level creatures don't compare. The other aspect is that if you put one of your characters up against another creature at equal level you almost always wipe the floor with them because you have better skills, abilities, etc.

It's not an unbalance it's the actual game design and it works, being capped at 4 when enemies are 5 just makes it feel really unbalanced.

[Syntax]

Originally posted by Migalouch:

D&D just gets unfair when that level 5 cap is hit. Sure it sucks, but the thing is that's intended so that when YOU get level 5 lower level creatures don't compare. The other aspect is that if you put one of your characters up against another creature at equal level you almost always wipe the floor with them because you have better skills, abilities, etc.

It's not an unbalance it's the actual game design and it works, being capped at 4 when enemies are 5 just makes it feel really unbalanced.

It's called a challenge, I've been able to overcome these by simply thinking ahead... I've beaten Act 1 twice, and sure I struggled; But I predicted and over came.

[MJ]

Dudes its DnD... not Diablo. You are not supposed to rush in. Its all about strategy.

You are supposed to scout ahead cautiously, then take positions that roflstomp the enemy. If you cant get a good position, trick them to following you to a trap.

If you play without a single thief or stealthy char and no one can cast invis, use your pet familiars... they are great for sacrific... i mean scouting...

I beat the minotaurs and such underground with a single character by using the emerald fire trap at the gate. Didnt lift a finger to kill them unless you count lowering the bridge which you actually dont need to do. It was hilarious.

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by MJ:

Dudes its DnD... not Diablo. You are not supposed to rush in. Its all about strategy.

You are supposed to scout ahead cautiously, then take positions that roflstomp the enemy. If you cant get a good position, trick them to following you to a trap.

If you play without a single thief or stealthy char and no one can cast invis, use your pet familiars... they are great for sacrific... i mean scouting...

I beat the minotaurs and such underground with a single character by using the emerald fire trap at the gate. Didnt lift a finger to kill them unless you count lowering the bridge which you actually dont need to do. It was hilarious.

Emerald fire trap. You mean the shooting wall defense? I did not get xp when i used this, also this seems super cheesy in my eyes, since they kill EVERYTHING within a turn. (Though wonder what would happen if something that is immune to their attack comes. Prolly a true game breaking loop:D Since it is their shooting turn till they kill sg.)

Actually i miss REAL traps. Rangers and rogues were able to set those in the previous DND-s. I am unsure how it is with 5th ed, as in my language it is just coming out, and i did not order it in english. (That is only for Ravenloft themed stuff:D)

[Haterade]

Originally posted by Dr.SwitchOff:

Originally posted by Haterade:

Let me explane a litle, im now max lvl ( 4 ) and when i enconter mobs of my lvl, they attack 2 time per turn, I only attack once, i know some of you might not see this has a big differance for some fight but, when you get agains 8 guys... who attack 2-3 time per turn, and some have combo attacks that does 3-4 hits... each does 8-22 damage... on chart that have max 30 hp. That's kinda unfair imo. I realy love the game doe, its just that right now, the completion ( of all the 1st act) is realy hard to get because of that, if i get unlucky ( and HO GOD we are in this game) i just die instantly vs trash mobs, which is kinda sad. I dont want to say the game is thrash because of that (it realy isnt) but , it makes it unnessecerly hard.

Ok, you are level 4, how many companions you have and what monsters are you having trouble at? What classes you have in group?

Basic set up. Rogue, Mage, Warrior, Cleric.

[Planeforger]

Originally posted by Red:

Also, Ettercaps, Gnolls, a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ drider, phase spiders, minotaurs, and Bulettes are not level 1-5 encounters, yet they are present here for us because they are interesting. Its hard but not unfair.

If we're going by Challenge Ratings...

Gnolls are CR1/2 (but these are obviously buffed).
Ettercaps are CR2.
Mintoaurs and phase spiders are CR3.
Bulettes are CR5.
Driders are CR6.

So most of these (pre-BG3 buffs) are designed for level 1-5 parties, and I imagine a level 5 party would wreck a drider if it was the only fight of the day.

[Cisco2950]

Looking forward to crafting traps and setting them. No Ranger or Thief worth anything would not use traps. One of the rangers categories is Bounty Hunter and says helps in keeping things caught. So they have a ways to go and add to this. I remember the pencil, paper, painted lead minatures, bag of dice, beer, pizza, and pipe tobacco.

[Haterade]

I saw many of your reply, I get what you are saying, plan ahead to win encounter, scout to find enemy, abuse trap who makes it unfair and makes every fight in the underdark boring ( talking about you, bridge trappers) I do like a challenge, all game was a challenge, monster who does 3/4 your hp with 1 attack? that's fine, monster that cast real annoying magic? It's okay. But the underdark is another lvl, even with planning, if i get unlucky on 4 rolls, I'm dead. Sometime i feel like playing xcom with the 80% chance to hit that miss. Some of you guys are throwing me ♥♥♥♥ cause I said i find that unfair, you even when to say that I dont know how to play DnD, like it matter in my opinion, that's all i wanted to give, my opinion. If your not happy about my opinion, that's your opinion, If you have something constructive to say, good. But if you're there only to throw ♥♥♥♥ and telling me I'm bad at the game, just dont post.

[Nibiru]

I thought the same when I first got to Underdark and experienced the big difference in how monsters down there fought compared to the over world.. I was on my ranger in that play through.. Otherwise, Had Lae-Zel as tank/dmg, Shadowheart as heals/support, Gale as ranged dmg and me as rogue / ranged dmg...

You sneak, watch their walking patterns then avoid to pass by, use the environment to your advantage, use your utilities (scrolls, potions, support spells, heals, etc..) and above all else you SAVE, SAVE, SAVE!! I ended up beating the whole game, completed every quest, killed all monsters both over world and under dark.. all being highest of level 4.. Just takes time, patience and the enjoyment for what you're doing.. I also made butt loads of bug lists and sent them all to Larian..

[Grey Lensman]

Even so, having trash mobs do 3-4 attacks per round is pretty lame, and i'ts never 4 v4, it always favours the npcs, dunno if you've tried to fight the mud mehpits yet, there are 12 of them + 2 miconid barbarians.

It took me an hour to wittle through them with my Fighter and Shadowhawk, Astarion was dead soon as he wet his pants, and Gale seems to like playing dead alot.