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ioci Oct 15, 2020 @ 2:10am
Is scimitar Dueling good to build Lae'zel?
Although she looks cool with greatsword and longsword, but the art in game shows her fighting in a dueling style with a scimitar. +2 damge doesn't seems to be strong enough comparing to great weapon damage reroll, and scimitar is only 1d6. I want to maximize the role play experience but doubt if this build could be enough for the adventure as I want to avoid using explosive tactic as well.
So, does anyone tried this build already or maybe someone expert know about this build?
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Originally posted by The Emperor Of Milfgaard:
Originally posted by ioci:
Scimitar is a so awkward choice for a fighter, especially for Lae'zel. The game rule provides better weapons for Str and Dex fighters even only talking about dedicated 1h weapon. Hope there is a proficiency stack effect that allows the X weapon proficiency *2 get an additional +1 on attack roll. Otherwise, the more I know about this game, the less likely I would use those weapon for a better damage output.

Imo a dual wielding dex build that uses rapiers is not worse than a str build doing the same with longswords. It has pros and cons. The str fighter can jump farther. The dex build has more choices when it comes to armor and currently he will have more ac than the str fighter if the str fighter dumps dex to 8/9 whatever. Now where you get differences is rogue vs ranger vs fighter. I think all of them are viable going for a dex dual wield build and have their respective strength and weaknesses.

EDIT: In case anyone is missing this, I am purely talking about this in the context of the current Baldurs Gate 3.
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KeepCleaving Oct 15, 2020 @ 3:48am 
Yeah the scimitar's look not great dmg wise, but isn't there a feat to duel wield weapons without "light" status? Rapiers would be 1-8, can you duel wield longswords with this feat as well? I haven't tried this yet.
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ioci Oct 15, 2020 @ 4:18am 
Originally posted by KeepCleaving:
Yeah the scimitar's look not great dmg wise, but isn't there a feat to duel wield weapons without "light" status? Rapiers would be 1-8, can you duel wield longswords with this feat as well? I haven't tried this yet.
Wondered if versatile weapon could be duel wielded tool. Have a duel wield dwarf ranger trying the build, haven't reach level 4 yet.
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KeepCleaving Oct 15, 2020 @ 6:56am 
Originally posted by ioci:
Originally posted by KeepCleaving:
Yeah the scimitar's look not great dmg wise, but isn't there a feat to duel wield weapons without "light" status? Rapiers would be 1-8, can you duel wield longswords with this feat as well? I haven't tried this yet.
Wondered if versatile weapon could be duel wielded tool. Have a duel wield dwarf ranger trying the build, haven't reach level 4 yet.

hmm is your Dwarf Ranger strength based instead of dex? I believe most versatile weaps end up using str. also remember this when using those amazing axes, the 1 handed axes aren't finesse, so they're using strength instead of your dex score for hit and dmg.
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ioci Oct 15, 2020 @ 7:10am 
Str based ranger knight with only 8 dex wearing heavy armor. Picked the feat that do extra damage to wounded enemy. Tought the feat would help on clearing enemy quick, but the hit chance wasn't ideal so far. If can't duel wield battleaxe at level 4, maybe I will equip him with a shield or do two handed style. Low turn order after all...
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KeepCleaving Oct 15, 2020 @ 7:14am 
very cool, I hadn't thought of being a str ranger. Just because I guess the tradition is that they are dex. If anything I can't wait to hear of you using that awesome Gnoll flail from that boss.
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Azell Oct 15, 2020 @ 7:18am 
i would really recommend not having -1 Dex for the bad saving throws and the reduction to your AC also i do have a rogue that uses 2 Rapiers with the feat so it should be possible with longswords.
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ioci Oct 16, 2020 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by KeepCleaving:
very cool, I hadn't thought of being a str ranger. Just because I guess the tradition is that they are dex. If anything I can't wait to hear of you using that awesome Gnoll flail from that boss.
My melee ranger finally hit level 4, versatile weapon can be used for duel wield. :D
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Random Hero Oct 16, 2020 @ 8:38pm 
You can find a 2d4 one-handed sickle and make it +1 with silence effect for one of the hands.

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KeepCleaving Oct 17, 2020 @ 2:23am 
Originally posted by Random Hero:
You can find a 2d4 one-handed sickle and make it +1 with silence effect for one of the hands.
how do you do all this? :O
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MyLittleJohny Oct 17, 2020 @ 2:33am 
The duel-wielding is bugged at this moment. It misrepresents the chance to hit and the second hand has less likelyhood to hit compared to DnD rules, because the modifiers goes to damage instead of THAC.
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Silverquick Oct 17, 2020 @ 2:40am 
Is there some trick to getting Rapiers to duel wield?

I have attempted this multiple times but they will not allow a second weapon to be put in the slot.

I can dual wield hand axe and short sword, and even dual wield Scimitar combos, but cannot dual wield anything with Rapier.
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djinnxy Oct 17, 2020 @ 2:47am 
So what happens if I want my rogue to backstab with both weapons at the same time? Yes it's bugged. Even when I click on dual wielding i have to choose a second attack in the same round with the offhand.
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djinnxy Oct 17, 2020 @ 2:47am 
Originally posted by Silverquick:
Is there some trick to getting Rapiers to duel wield?

I have attempted this multiple times but they will not allow a second weapon to be put in the slot.

I can dual wield hand axe and short sword, and even dual wield Scimitar combos, but cannot dual wield anything with Rapier.

Rapiers aren't light so you need the feat.
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Batailleuse Oct 17, 2020 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by Silverquick:
Is there some trick to getting Rapiers to duel wield?

I have attempted this multiple times but they will not allow a second weapon to be put in the slot.

I can dual wield hand axe and short sword, and even dual wield Scimitar combos, but cannot dual wield anything with Rapier.

you cant until you are lvl 4 and pick the Dual Wield Master in the list of upgrade Feat by clicking the ''Swap Feat'' on the character screen at lvl up during fouth level upgrade.

then you can dual wield anything that isnt a 2 hander or has a line that specifically says it prevent dual wielding (like the harpoon/trident)
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wendigo211 Oct 17, 2020 @ 3:05am 
Originally posted by ioci:
Although she looks cool with greatsword and longsword, but the art in game shows her fighting in a dueling style with a scimitar. +2 damge doesn't seems to be strong enough comparing to great weapon damage reroll, and scimitar is only 1d6. I want to maximize the role play experience but doubt if this build could be enough for the adventure as I want to avoid using explosive tactic as well.
So, does anyone tried this build already or maybe someone expert know about this build?

I have her dueling with a longsword in one of my playthroughs. Scimitars aren't bad for dex builds, but strength builds have better options. Honestly, I think dueling is the best style for a Fighter right now. It lets you use a shield for an extra +2 to AC, so you end up getting a +2 to AC and +2 to damage using the style. With a 19 AC (21 with Shield of Faith), she doesn't get hit very often.

Granted, dueling doesn't have the DPS of dual wielding or using a two-handed weapon with Great Weapon Mastery. Although, without Great Weapon Mastery, dueling a 1-h weapon does similar damage to a two-handed weapon, e.g. a Great axe is 1d12 (6.5 on average) dueling a longsword is 1d8+2 (also 6.5 on average). GWM also gives you a -5 to hit, which can be hard to manage.

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