Need help deciding weather to revive Duke Ravengard or break Wylls pact

[Bloblom1545]

The reason the Duke is dead is because I saved the Gondians before I knew Wylls dad was down there so instead of Mizoras pact saving him it revives him (Wylls dad was never in the iron throne because I never spoke to Mizora so the game just said he died from getting knocked by Orin or Gortash). So should I break the contract or revive Wylls dad?

[Chaosolous]

I would do what you think would be fun.

[Яeplicant]

Always choose the lesser evil. At least, that's what I would do.

[Bloblom1545]

Originally posted by Яeplicant:

Always choose the lesser evil. At least, that's what I would do.

Would that be setting wyll free?

[Red Phantom]

The most fun thing to do is always to try and out-devil the devil and cheat the deal, if you can. The game may surprise you in how it allows you to do this often (but it also anticipates it).

[Яeplicant]

Originally posted by Bloblom1545:

Originally posted by Яeplicant:

Always choose the lesser evil. At least, that's what I would do.

Would that be setting wyll free?

That's a question you'd have to ask yourself and your moral compass.

But if they what they say is true - and I've been out of touch with D&D lore for the past 20 years - then Baldur's Gate would be doomed or going downhill without Ravenguard, I'd say that Wyll would have to bite the bullet, sacrifice his freedom for the many.

That's just me, though.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one."

Man, Spock really did a number on me, didn't he?

[belgix]

So, you also killed the mind flayer in the Underdark. I'm saying that because I got the clue from him when entering in the Iron Throne. It's another one you can save.

[RhodosGuard]

You could make a pro/con list.
You free Wyll, he will lose his powers in 6 months time, how capable an adventurer that leaves him, is up for debate, but it also frees him up, to take over his dads position, or at least take part in Baldurs Gate politics. But he also loses his chance for a personal reconnection with his father.
You revive Duke Ravengard, he will probably stay in power and protect Baldurs Gate, but he wont have an "heir apparent" and since Wyll keeps being bound by Mizora, his father would probably still try to keep him in exile. There is a chance he lets his son stay, but Wyll will then forever be a liability to the city, or will have to eventually break his pact dooming him to eternally fight in the Blood War as a lower devil.

I tend towards saving the younger generation.

(I havent yet finished the game, so I dont actually know what happens with either of them in the epilogue)

[rubberducky102760]

First time I played I actually went back to a much earlier save because I didn't go to the coronation and Ravengard was dead by the time I got to the Iron Throne. On the one hand, I believe in making the best of the consequences my own bad choices, but on the other, how you gonna let Ravengard die? I always cheat the devil; break Wyll's pact and go save dad. Mizora is such a twit, it's almost a requirement.

[Bloblom1545]

Originally posted by rubberducky102760:

First time I played I actually went back to a much earlier save because I didn't go to the coronation and Ravengard was dead by the time I got to the Iron Throne. On the one hand, I believe in making the best of the consequences my own bad choices, but on the other, how you gonna let Ravengard die? I always cheat the devil; break Wyll's pact and go save dad. Mizora is such a twit, it's almost a requirement.

Yea thats what happend to me too. I decided not to reload and decided to save Wylls dad. Im actually happy with the choice though, Wyll looked happy that he was the blade of avernus, it seemed like it was what he wanted. I got to save duke ravengard and he said he would help me with the brain. Mizora said that she wouldnt keep a tight leash on Wyll.

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by rubberducky102760:

First time I played I actually went back to a much earlier save because I didn't go to the coronation and Ravengard was dead by the time I got to the Iron Throne. On the one hand, I believe in making the best of the consequences my own bad choices, but on the other, how you gonna let Ravengard die? I always cheat the devil; break Wyll's pact and go save dad. Mizora is such a twit, it's almost a requirement.

Once you know the proper sequence of Events, it's so good to skip the coronation, because you can put Iron Throne off it's timer, and prepare all your resources specifically for that.

I mean, I dont remember how I did it anymore, but I hit this very specific sequence of events, where Mizora showed up in Camp just as I was preparing to go do Iron Throne. And I didnt know that was a requirement to save both Wyll and his pop.

The first time I did it, because I self-spoiled, afraid of being put on a timer, I literally prepared my entire party for just this quest so I made sure to save everybody, just to overlook 1 cell and have a single gondian die.

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by Bloblom1545:

Originally posted by rubberducky102760:

First time I played I actually went back to a much earlier save because I didn't go to the coronation and Ravengard was dead by the time I got to the Iron Throne. On the one hand, I believe in making the best of the consequences my own bad choices, but on the other, how you gonna let Ravengard die? I always cheat the devil; break Wyll's pact and go save dad. Mizora is such a twit, it's almost a requirement.

Yea thats what happend to me too. I decided not to reload and decided to save Wylls dad. Im actually happy with the choice though, Wyll looked happy that he was the blade of avernus, it seemed like it was what he wanted. I got to save duke ravengard and he said he would help me with the brain. Mizora said that she wouldnt keep a tight leash on Wyll.

Mizora saying she wouldn't keep a tight leash is bold words from someone who intentionally mislead Wyll into thinking a Tiefling was a Devil.

[rubberducky102760]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Originally posted by rubberducky102760:

First time I played I actually went back to a much earlier save because I didn't go to the coronation and Ravengard was dead by the time I got to the Iron Throne. On the one hand, I believe in making the best of the consequences my own bad choices, but on the other, how you gonna let Ravengard die? I always cheat the devil; break Wyll's pact and go save dad. Mizora is such a twit, it's almost a requirement.

Once you know the proper sequence of Events, it's so good to skip the coronation, because you can put Iron Throne off it's timer, and prepare all your resources specifically for that.

I mean, I dont remember how I did it anymore, but I hit this very specific sequence of events, where Mizora showed up in Camp just as I was preparing to go do Iron Throne. And I didnt know that was a requirement to save both Wyll and his pop.

The first time I did it, because I self-spoiled, afraid of being put on a timer, I literally prepared my entire party for just this quest so I made sure to save everybody, just to overlook 1 cell and have a single gondian die.

It makes me big mad when any of the Gondians die. Talk about pressure.
Oh, and Omeluum too. Gotta save Squidward.