Monk with Battle Frenzy / Mönch mit Kampfrausch

[Shandor]

Monk with Battle Frenzy
Hello everyone!

I have a question and hope the community here can help me (again).

I'm currently playing the game again in a new playthrough. I've decided on a strength monk. I'm currently doing my 5th level up and was thinking about making my pure fistfight monk into a barbarian multi-class. Firstly because of the bonus that you get the CON bonus as armor without armor. Secondly because Battle Frenzy would be great.

However, I've just come across a problem with the description. The tooltip says "When you make an attack with a melee weapon, an improvised weapon or a thrown object..." But unarmed is not a melee weapon. Am I seeing that correctly? So no Battle Frenzy for my monk?

And the extra AC from the CON bonus, is the bonus cumulative with the monk's WIS and DEX bonus?

As a barbarian, do you still get things in later levels that are useful for the monk? Or is mixing it with the barbarian nonsense because none of it works without a weapon?

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German:
Hallo zusammen!

Ich habe eine frage und hoffe die Comunity hier kann mir (mal wieder) helfen.

Ich Spiele das Spiel gerade mal wieder in einem neuen Durchgang. Und zwar hab ich mich für einen Stärke Mönch entschieden. Ich bin gerade dabei mein 5 level up zu machen und dachte daran meinen reinen Faustkampf Mönch zu einer Barbaren Multi Klasse zu machen. Zum einen weil sich der bonus das man ohne Rüstung den KON Bonus als Rüstung dazu bekommt. Zum anderen weil Kampfrausch toll wäre.

Allerdings bin ich bei der beschreibung gerade auf ein Problem gestoßen. Dort im Tooltip steht "Wenn man einen Angriff mit einer Nahkampfwaffe, einer Inprovisierten Waffe oder einem geworfenem Objekt.." Waffenlos ist aber keine Nahkampfwaffe. Sehe ich das richtig? Also kein Kampfrausch für meinen Mönch?

Und die extra RK durch den KON Bonus, ist der Bonus mit dem Mönchs WIS und GES Bonus Kumulativ?

Bekommt man als Barbar in Späteren leveln noch sachen die für den Mönch nützlich sind?
Oder ist das Mixen mit dem Barbar quatsch weil nichts davon funktioniert ohne Waffe?

[Moonbane]

You really dont want to multiclass with Barbarian. Monk is starved for bonus action uses as it is already. Rogue is the stapple multiclass for Monk, as thief 3 grants an additional bonus action.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Unarmored Defense from Barbarian and Monk do not stack. They are AC replacement effects, the game will use whichever is higher. So you get either Dex + Con or Dex + Wis.

[Shandor]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pan Darius Cassandra:

Unarmored Defense from Barbarian and Monk do not stack. They are AC replacement effects, the game will use whichever is higher. So you get either Dex + Con or Dex + Wis.

Ok that helps alot in my Desicion. Thank you.

Anyone knows if Frenzy works without a Weapon?

[Shandor]

Oh if you dont mind. a little side question that isnt really the Topic but better then open a new discussion.
The Way of the Open hand will remove the Flurry of Fists ability? (Not sure if this the exact name of the attack is but i hope you know what i mean)
Its always gone as soon i choose this Path.

It will be replaced by the 3 Attacks with the bonus effect (Toss, drop down and Daze) right?

[Moonbane]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shandor:

Oh if you dont mind. a little side question that isnt really the Topic but better then open a new discussion.
The Way of the Open hand will remove the Flurry of Fists ability? (Not sure if this the exact name of the attack is but i hope you know what i mean)
Its always gone as soon i choose this Path.

Open Hand replaces the basic Flurry of Blows with 3 improved versions. Flurry of Blows: Stagger, Topple and Push. If you are not seeing them, look in your spellbook. Might be an addon issue.

https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Way+of+the+Open+Hand

[Shandor]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Moonbane:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shandor:

Oh if you dont mind. a little side question that isnt really the Topic but better then open a new discussion.
The Way of the Open hand will remove the Flurry of Fists ability? (Not sure if this the exact name of the attack is but i hope you know what i mean)
Its always gone as soon i choose this Path.

Open Hand replaces the basic Flurry of Blows with 3 improved versions. Flurry of Blows: Stagger, Topple and Push. If you are not seeing them, look in your spellbook. Might be an addon issue.

https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Way+of+the+Open+Hand

Thanks alot

[Moonbane]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shandor:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Moonbane:

Open Hand replaces the basic Flurry of Blows with 3 improved versions. Flurry of Blows: Stagger, Topple and Push. If you are not seeing them, look in your spellbook. Might be an addon issue.

https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Way+of+the+Open+Hand

Thanks alot

Flurry of Blows: Stagger, can shut down legendary reactions from bosses.