Astarion proficient

[Xamurai]

through act 1 i opened every chest bough every armour, yet i don't find any better weapon or armour thats proficient with Astarion....

I better can sent him naked in to battle. He is only proficient with his orginal clothes and a weak dagger/knife in his hand?

[Moonbane]

Light armor and Cloth is what Astarion can use.
Minthara in the goblin base have spidersilk armor which is a REALLY good light light armor.
https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Spidersilk+Armour

Alternatively you can buy Graceful Cloth from Lady Esther in the mountain pass.
https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/The+Graceful+Cloth+(Cat)

While its only cloth, its abilities is extremely good. +2dex , plus 1 dex saves, highened jump distance and -permanent- cats grace. Cats Grace gives you advantage on all Dex checks, which includes Sleight of hand. meaning you no longer need to use the gloves that gives advantage on sleight of hand.

Give Astarion an additional dagger. Put him in stealth and look to reach somebody to backstab them. Hold shift to preview sneak cones. Alteratively give him a longbow that you also can sneak attack with.

[m142]

there is list of proficienty in character chart , you can alvays change from rouge to any other class at start if game or add another one to get efficiency.

[RydenRLD]

Vendor armor is tied to the party level. As you level up, the vendors in the grove sell better gear. There is +1 armor and weapons you can purchase which work for him. Otherwise a lot of the better gear is mainly in the underdark and act 2 onward.

Also make sure you pay attention to all the magical gear. Some of it can have some good synergy with him depending on if you keep with this default build or customize him.

[Lethan]

If you're having issues; when you gain access to Respec, change him up to Bard (Sword) or Ranger and he'll still fit his theme and gain access to medium armour etc.

[Moonbane]

Its a good idea to respec Astarion, as pure rogues is not very good in 5th edition. Most only takes 3 levels of thief for an extra bonus action.

[jonnin]

unless all you care about is buffs to sneaking, you won't see a decent light armor until nearly act 3 (act 2 if RNG is on your side, or you know where to beeline early for a drop).

in act 2 you MAY randomly get a vendor with studded leather + 2, 14 AC which is as good as it gets. By then you are expected to have a 20 dex on a LA user, pulls it up to 19AC without anything else. A tanky character by the end of act 2 may have a 23-25 AC, for reference, without buffs (best armor +dex for the char, shield+3, weapon +1 is possible, feats/fighting style +1-2 possible).

Respec... there are many possibilities. Fighter 1-2 levels gets you ability to use any weapon in the game, any armor and shield, fighting style (+1 ac if nothing else looks good), self heal and action surge .. its a decent investment for ANYONE to take 1-2 fighter levels initially and the rest in their real class(es). Fighter is one of several options, of course, its just that fighting style and self heal are high end vs some other ideas.

there is at least 1 medium armor that has no dex cap, and is probably best AC for a rogue hybrid or racially enabled medium user.

[Moonbane]

Yuan ti armor, and armor of agility is both medium armor and no dex cap.

[seeker1]

He has the same base proficiencies every starting rogue has.

[Mike Garrison]

Whether you like them or not, rogues are not supposed to walk around all armored up. BG3/5e is much more generous with this than earlier versions of the game. In the original BG games, if you had any armor other than leather or studded leather, you couldn't use your thieving skills at all. In 5e, you can just "dip" into another class and get all medium armor styles with no loss of proficiency at your slight-of-hand.

The game is all kind of balanced around giving light/no armor characters full DEX bonus (typically +4 for a DEX-based character), medium armor characters only a max of +2 for DEX, and heavy armor character nothing for DEX.

The idea behind the rogue is that they are supposed to stab and then hide, stab and then hide, etc. They don;t have lots of armor because they are supposed to be sneaky and not just stand in the open and take hits.

[Moonbane]

The problem with rogues in 5th is that sneak attack just plain sucks compared to extra attack. Too many hoops to jump through.

[Mike Garrison]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

The problem with rogues in 5th is that sneak attack just plain sucks compared to extra attack. Too many hoops to jump through.

Some people like it. Remember that the game is really designed for role-play.

[Moonbane]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

Originally posted by Moonbane:

The problem with rogues in 5th is that sneak attack just plain sucks compared to extra attack. Too many hoops to jump through.

Some people like it. Remember that the game is really designed for role-play.

Rogues are really really hamstrung by only one sneak attack per turn. You just get far more out of extra attack.

[DeMasked]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

Some people like it. Remember that the game is really designed for role-play.

Rogues are really really hamstrung by only one sneak attack per turn. You just get far more out of extra attack.

Combat wise they aren't as good as some other classes offensively. You do get some nice defensive reactions to mitigate damage or avoid damage all together, you also get some nice skill based abilities to use outside combat which some other classes do not get. More proficiency to skills and 4 feats like Fighter.

Sneak Attack will proc when possible even if using a bonus action attack. So you can use your bonus action for the Sneak Attack and then the main attack for something else like a spell, cantrip, scroll, special arrow, whatever.

I think Rogue provides a lot of versatility both inside and outside combat which not all other classes can provide. As such they aren't as strong in combat unless you find ways to get crits or pierce vulnerability to double or triple your Sneak Attack damage while using Savage Attacker for re rolling dice with melee Sneak Attack.

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by seeker1:

He has the same base proficiencies every starting rogue has.

and a few more, since he's an elf he gets proficiency in longswords and shortswords, though the only longsword with finesse for sneak attacks is the Phalar Aluve.

His main melee weapons will be daggers, rapiers, and shortswords. Magic daggers are a dime a dozen and you can find both a +1 dagger and a +1 shortsword in the abandoned village near the start.

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Its a good idea to respec Astarion, as pure rogues is not very good in 5th edition. Most only takes 3 levels of thief for an extra bonus action.

skill issue

[Moonbane]

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Originally posted by seeker1:

He has the same base proficiencies every starting rogue has.

and a few more, since he's an elf he gets proficiency in longswords and shortswords, though the only longsword with finesse for sneak attacks is the Phalar Aluve.

His main melee weapons will be daggers, rapiers, and shortswords. Magic daggers are a dime a dozen and you can find both a +1 dagger and a +1 shortsword in the abandoned village near the start.

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Its a good idea to respec Astarion, as pure rogues is not very good in 5th edition. Most only takes 3 levels of thief for an extra bonus action.

skill issue

Skill issue? you have no idea what you are talking about.