As Dark Urge How Do I Kill Nightsong And Save Isobel? (Spoilers)

[hairo]

So I am in kind of dilemma here. In my Dark Urge playthrough I am trying to make all my companions choose their own evil routes. Like shadowheart killing nightsong, wyll stuck in pact, astarion ascended etc. So my problem is when I kill nightsong I unintentionally also complete killing isobel quest which is something I want to avoid because I immediatly get slayer form after that from my butler which, I am unsure if it will make me unable reject bhaal and possibly die in the end for choosing good ending. I want to see both good and evil endings for dark urge so I shouldn't accept bhaal to see good endings as far as I know.

I am basically trying to make shadowheart dark justiciar without making my dark urge attain slayer form is it possible to avoid or is it possible to avoid being killed by bhall even when I accept slayer form?

[⎛⎝ Kupo ⎠⎞]

You don't die permanently either way or am I wrong?
I am pretty sure you can reject Bhaal regardless of choices before that, and if he kills you Withers just resses you.

[hairo]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ Kupo ⎠⎞:

You don't die permanently either way or am I wrong?
I am pretty sure you can reject Bhaal regardless of choices before that, and if he kills you Withers just resses you.

what you are mentioning is the part after orin fight, what I meant when bhall kills you is for rejecting him in the very end. If I remember correctly when you use bhaal gifts for entire playthrough and reject him in the end he kills you because you indulged in his powers for too long without any chance to resist.

I'd also like to know if its possible to reject bhaal after orin fight even if butler gives me slayer form beforehand I never tried it so i don't know.

[Emilia Tempest]

Whatever you do wont matter until act 3 where you will fight Orin, yes that means you can get the slayer form and just reject him
After the fight thats where you have the choices to lock into the ending you want to have (good or bad)

If you want the good ending, you reject Bhaal's gift and pay the price for that
If you want the bad ending, you accept Bhaal's gift and either follow through (dominating the brain) or reject him later (paying a steeper price)

If you rejected the gift from Bhaal after the Orin fight, youre pretty much just a regular Tav at that point, Bhaal wont do anything after that to you (idk if you keep the slayer form)
So keep Orin as the last thing to do in Act 3 so you have to do as little as you need to get both the good ending and bad ending for Dark Urge

[Tempest Fox3]

There's a sort of exploit you can do. If you trigger the cut scene where shadowheart kills nightsong but leave someone who can cast silence out of the cut scene. Swap to them and cast silence over Shadowheart and your MC. Let the cut scene play out and kill nightsong. The proceeding cut scene where Isobel dies won't trigger because you're silenced and its that cut scene that causes Isobel and the others at last light inn to die. Meaning Isobel remains alive and there's even unique dialogue in act 3 with Isobel that you can't get any other way.

Video detailing it here (Which is how I learned of it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8mWWjz-9yE

[hairo]

Originally posted by Tempest Fox3:

There's a sort of exploit you can do. If you trigger the cut scene where shadowheart kills nightsong but leave someone who can cast silence out of the cut scene. Swap to them and cast silence over Shadowheart and your MC. Let the cut scene play out and kill nightsong. The proceeding cut scene where Isobel dies won't trigger because you're silenced and its that cut scene that causes Isobel and the others at last light inn to die. Meaning Isobel remains alive and there's even unique dialogue in act 3 with Isobel that you can't get any other way.

Video detailing it here (Which is how I learned of it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8mWWjz-9yE

thanks for offer but I generally don't do exploits in bg3 because you never know the game will bug out

[hairo]

Originally posted by Emilia Tempest:

Whatever you do wont matter until act 3 where you will fight Orin, yes that means you can get the slayer form and just reject him
After the fight thats where you have the choices to lock into the ending you want to have (good or bad)

If you want the good ending, you reject Bhaal's gift and pay the price for that
If you want the bad ending, you accept Bhaal's gift and either follow through (dominating the brain) or reject him later (paying a steeper price)

If you rejected the gift from Bhaal after the Orin fight, youre pretty much just a regular Tav at that point, Bhaal wont do anything after that to you (idk if you keep the slayer form)
So keep Orin as the last thing to do in Act 3 so you have to do as little as you need to get both the good ending and bad ending for Dark Urge

thanks for stating it out clearly

[hairo]

Originally posted by MystShade:

afaik you can reject him no matter your choises, there is basicly 3 outcome

you accept the gift and follow his plan
you refuse and go redeption arc
you fail (lose to orin) and get the worst ending.

thanks!