Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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MarVerine Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:11pm
Why is this game so highly regarded?
Combat system seems identical to Original Sin 2, the most dissapointing and boring system i had the misfortune of experiencing.
Is it the story? again from the recaps and stories i heard, it seems like the most generic chatgpt ai story imaginable.
Game world seems to be pretty, but i would like to know if the game world is also "open" but tiered, where if you wander in a higher tier part of the map you could break the progression of the character and soft break your game, happened to me once in OS 1.

I know i come off negative towards the game but i hated Original Sin 1 and 2 and wonder if they delivered a better experience with this one.
Originally posted by Seagal:
Why is this game so highly regarded? A number of reasons, but mostly because the game is technically well made, provides good value for the money, and it having a pro-consumer business model in an industry that has been ever increasing more predatory.

Combine that with the game being a viral hit, filled will divisive content that fuels discussion, and you get something that was a fluke success. The game was always going to be good and successful, because the pedigree is there with Larian, but even they had no idea or expectation that the game would be a viral shot-in-the-dark hit.

The game is similar to D:OS2 in some ways, but in many ways it's not. In my opinion BG3 is notably worse than both D:OS games. The general gameplay is similar as is some of the things you can do in combat, etc, but the general combat or the ruleset governing the game is totally different.

I think D:OS2 is a much better game when it comes to combat. Even Larian I believe has voiced issue with the combat in BG3 because they were limited in what they could do because of D&D. That's not to say that you wouldn't like it more however.

There's plenty of people who like one game more than the other. So, perhaps you would like BG3 while not liking D:OS, but if I had to guess just by quickly skimming over this thread, I'd say you wouldn't like BG3 either.
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Xenomorph Kitty Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:17pm 
With the way you type, I don't count you as being genuine with your query. You sound like you're here to bait people.

Especially with the assumptions you've already made which clearly shows a complete lack of actual research. So there seems to be little point trying to convince you of anything.
Last edited by Xenomorph Kitty; Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:17pm
Humpenstilzchen Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by MarVerine:
Why is this game so highly regarded?
Because so many people love it.
Cartesian Duelist Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by MarVerine:
I know i come off negative towards the game but i hated Original Sin 1 and 2 and wonder if they delivered a better experience with this one.

Other than that it uses D&D 5e rules instead of Larian's system, no.

Seriously, if you didn't like the D:OS games then there's no reason you'd like this one. The story is pretty boring as you noted and the game play get tiring the longer the game goes on.
Last edited by Cartesian Duelist; Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:22pm
Zsrai Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:21pm 
This is obviously a bad faith thread, but the reason it's so well regarded is that it's a decent game with an astoundingly good production value on top of it.
Originally posted by MarVerine:
Combat system seems identical to Original Sin 2, the most dissapointing and boring system i had the misfortune of experiencing.
Is it the story? again from the recaps and stories i heard, it seems like the most generic chatgpt ai story imaginable.
Game world seems to be pretty, but i would like to know if the game world is also "open" but tiered, where if you wander in a higher tier part of the map you could break the progression of the character and soft break your game, happened to me once in OS 1.

I know i come off negative towards the game but i hated Original Sin 1 and 2 and wonder if they delivered a better experience with this one.
You dont soft break the game, nor break progression of character(s). What you do is fail a quest and opted to go into key events.

That is a you problem. You litterally get told that you have point of no returns. That means: Finnish what you can cause quests will auto fail if you proceed.
MarVerine Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by Seri:
With the way you type, I don't count you as being genuine with your query. You sound like you're here to bait people.

Especially with the assumptions you've already made which clearly shows a complete lack of actual research. So there seems to be little point trying to convince you of anything.
I intentionally didnt watch playthroughs because i want to experience it myselfe. I just dont want to be dissapointed again, as i was hyped for OS2 as everyone was praising it.

This kind of game has to have something making you stick with it for 100 hours lol, so i was just wondering what?!
Is the gameworld and the fantasy consistent like witcher series? if it is only graphics then OS2 was also gorgeous but i couldnt bring my friends to continue the coop campaign after 3 sessions.
Last edited by MarVerine; Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:38pm
MarVerine Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:
Originally posted by MarVerine:
Combat system seems identical to Original Sin 2, the most dissapointing and boring system i had the misfortune of experiencing.
Is it the story? again from the recaps and stories i heard, it seems like the most generic chatgpt ai story imaginable.
Game world seems to be pretty, but i would like to know if the game world is also "open" but tiered, where if you wander in a higher tier part of the map you could break the progression of the character and soft break your game, happened to me once in OS 1.

I know i come off negative towards the game but i hated Original Sin 1 and 2 and wonder if they delivered a better experience with this one.
You dont soft break the game, nor break progression of character(s). What you do is fail a quest and opted to go into key events.

That is a you problem. You litterally get told that you have point of no returns. That means: Finnish what you can cause quests will auto fail if you proceed.
No. what happened was that the skills in OS1 sucked and you had to level up some of them to fight higher tier enemies in the wrong zones.
and so you would not be able to gain xp for non combat stuff down the quest lines, as the low level zones didnt give you any xp anymore and the higher ones had artificial level capping "you do no damage".
most xp could be gained form story quests, and there was no indication what "level" the map was divided in.
Last edited by MarVerine; Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:39pm
Humpenstilzchen Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by MarVerine:
I intentionally didnt watch gameplay because i want to experience it myselfe. I just dont want to be dissapointed again, as i was hyped for OS2 as everyone was praising it.
I would recommend watching gameplay videos tbh but just from the start of the game so it doesn´t spoiler too much but will still give you a proper impression of the game.
MarVerine Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:
Originally posted by MarVerine:
I intentionally didnt watch gameplay because i want to experience it myselfe. I just dont want to be dissapointed again, as i was hyped for OS2 as everyone was praising it.
I would recommend watching gameplay videos tbh but just from the start of the game so it doesn´t spoiler too much but will still give you a proper impression of the game.
I watched a reviewer play it recently and he was overpraising the game to death, to me it looked like dumbed down OS2 game mechanics. So i was just wondering if the gameplay is the same, then there has to be something else that makes this game so well liked.
Last edited by MarVerine; Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:34pm
Razorblade Nov 11, 2024 @ 2:48pm 
Originally posted by MarVerine:
I watched a reviewer play it recently and he was overpraising the game to death, to me it looked like dumbed down OS2 game mechanics. So i was just wondering if the gameplay is the same, then there has to be something else that makes this game so well liked.
The combat system, other than being turn-based, is nothing like D:OS2. I could go into a long list of everything that is different about the two combat systems, but the problem is that they're just entirely different systems; everything about them is different. You're working on a completely baseless and ignorant assumption.

As for what people like, it's everything; the combat, the character building, the dialogue, and the exploration. While the narrative is largely linear, it's a game that gives you a great deal of freedom in pretty much any way. And that's what most people want out of an RPG: freedom.

Of course, saying all of this is pointless. You clearly want to hate the game you know nothing about, and have put mininal effort into learning about. Begone, troll.
MarVerine Nov 11, 2024 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by Razorblade:
Originally posted by MarVerine:
I watched a reviewer play it recently and he was overpraising the game to death, to me it looked like dumbed down OS2 game mechanics. So i was just wondering if the gameplay is the same, then there has to be something else that makes this game so well liked.
The combat system, other than being turn-based, is nothing like D:OS2. I could go into a long list of everything that is different about the two combat systems, but the problem is that they're just entirely different systems; everything about them is different. You're working on a completely baseless and ignorant assumption.

As for what people like, it's everything; the combat, the character building, the dialogue, and the exploration. While the narrative is largely linear, it's a game that gives you a great deal of freedom in pretty much any way. And that's what most people want out of an RPG: freedom.

Of course, saying all of this is pointless. You clearly want to hate the game you know nothing about, and have put mininal effort into learning about. Begone, troll.
The only baldurs gate game i played as a kid was the Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance 2 for xbox. the story was generic fantasy with vampires from what i remember, i didnt know much about the rest of the lore like you said.
BUT after watching a lore video when the BG3 launched and it looked like some random semi-scifi fantasy gobbledigook and i didnt buy it for that reason.
Last edited by MarVerine; Nov 11, 2024 @ 3:03pm
artemisone Nov 11, 2024 @ 3:06pm 
Your comment is gravely misinformed and you admit you have not played the game -- which is obvious since even your first sentence is false. A look at the player counts on Steam over 14 months after release should tell you its a great game for a very large number of players. It is over double DAV for example which released two weeks ago Among many other sources of info, like actual reviews of the game which contradict your post and the awards and interviews with its creators and actors. So I guess you are just here to piss people off. Very strange.
I have played part of DOS-2 after playing BG3 hoping it would be somewhat similar to BG# and its not at all. So your premise is completely wrong.
I love this game to death and have played nothing else but BG3 since I started over a year ago. I've played games for over 40 years and this is the best in all that time. It's a masterpiece, and with seemingly endless variety of content despite the absence of DLC.
But if you are just being nasty please leave us alone to enjoy it.
Razorblade Nov 11, 2024 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by MarVerine:
The only baldurs gate game i played as a kid was the Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance 2 for xbox. the story was generic fantasy with vampires from what i remember, i didnt know much about the rest of the lore like you said.
BUT after watching a lore video when the BG3 launched and it looked like some random semi-scifi fantasy gobbledigook and i didnt buy it for that reason.
Then don't buy it. You're free to not play a game for arbitrary reasons; just don't expect anyone who has actually played the game to validate your personal biases.
Xenomorph Kitty Nov 11, 2024 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by MarVerine:
Originally posted by Razorblade:
The combat system, other than being turn-based, is nothing like D:OS2. I could go into a long list of everything that is different about the two combat systems, but the problem is that they're just entirely different systems; everything about them is different. You're working on a completely baseless and ignorant assumption.

As for what people like, it's everything; the combat, the character building, the dialogue, and the exploration. While the narrative is largely linear, it's a game that gives you a great deal of freedom in pretty much any way. And that's what most people want out of an RPG: freedom.

Of course, saying all of this is pointless. You clearly want to hate the game you know nothing about, and have put mininal effort into learning about. Begone, troll.
The only baldurs gate game i played as a kid was the Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance 2 for xbox. the story was generic fantasy with vampires from what i remember, i didnt know much about the rest of the lore like you said.
BUT after watching a lore video when the BG3 launched and it looked like some random semi-scifi fantasy gobbledigook and i didnt buy it for that reason.

This just shows you didn't pay attention to anything, you've come at it with a negative and biased view, heard a small thing that confirms it for you and dismissed the rest of what everyone else has been telling you.

It's like I said at the start, there is no point in trying to convince you of anything, your mind is made up and you're just here to bait people.

So as the former poster said. Please leave us alone to enjoy it.
MarVerine Nov 11, 2024 @ 3:12pm 
What is with this hostility? when was i nasty lol?
How about say what is the reason you call it a masterpiece.
Seriously.
Last edited by MarVerine; Nov 11, 2024 @ 3:13pm
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