Best mods?

[BoltHarrier]

Last I checked, there was
A. Porn
B. Gigachad
C. Cheats

Anything >decent< been added?

[NeeLot]

Originally posted by Banelord:

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Why would I install a mod that takes away options from me? Anyway, can I see that citation, please? Since it's obvious, it should be really easy for you to provide at least one or two.

Pansexuality in BG3 actually detracts from immersion, making characters feel less grounded. Its far more engaging when established NPCs have defined preferences, adds depth and makes the world feel more authentic, rather than every character adapting to suit the player.

Cool, "immersion". Makes everyone straight too for "immersive" reasons.

So where's that citation?

[mouarflenoob]

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Originally posted by Master of Pronouns:

This: https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=34884-no-alphabets-5-2-0-1-baldur-s-gate-3

Imagine being so fragile that you need to mod minorities out of the game because their existence offends you too much.

there is even a call to remove vitiligo from the game. these people, they are ridiculous. (yes. They.)

[Casscette]

Alphabetti spaghetti souplettes are poured down a bottomless well in medieval times.

[Banelord]

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Originally posted by Banelord:

Pansexuality in BG3 actually detracts from immersion, making characters feel less grounded. Its far more engaging when established NPCs have defined preferences, adds depth and makes the world feel more authentic, rather than every character adapting to suit the player.

Cool, "immersion". Makes everyone straight too for "immersive" reasons.

So where's that citation?

Not necessarily—immersion doesn’t mean everyone is straight. Certain characters could naturally be written as non-straight, in a way so that diverse relationships actually fit their personalities and lore. This way, relationships would feel "earned", rather than just toggled to suit all paths.

[Banelord]

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Originally posted by mouarflenoob:

there is even a call to remove vitiligo from the game. these people, they are ridiculous. (yes. They.)

Skin conditions do be woke apparently. In tabletop I've also seen people lose it over some systems like Pathfinder having optional rules to play as disabled character.

Originally posted by Banelord:

Not necessarily—immersion doesn’t mean everyone is straight. Certain characters could naturally be written as non-straight, in a way so that diverse relationships actually fit their personalities and lore. This way, relationships would feel "earned", rather than just toggled to suit all paths.

Last I checked you still have to earn your companion's affinity. Also does the mod retain any non-straight player romances?

I don't know; that's exactly why I was asking if you've tried it yourself!

[Uraoen]

Originally posted by Master of Pronouns:

This: https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=34884-no-alphabets-5-2-0-1-baldur-s-gate-3

Funny how people like this make it their one personality trait.

NPCs in real life. He'd be a tutorial enemy.

[Frog Soup]

I've been doing a playthrough with "Many More Monsters" and all of the Valkrana mods. Very fun.

[Master of Pronouns]

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Originally posted by Master of Pronouns:

This: https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=34884-no-alphabets-5-2-0-1-baldur-s-gate-3

Imagine being so fragile that you need to mod minorities out of the game because their existence offends you too much.

It isn't offensive for me. Just don't care about weird minority fetishes, not even a tiny bit.
If something is not the norm, then why should the majority accept it without criticism?

Looks like I'm not the one who's got offended, lol.

[Levianne]

Originally posted by seeker1:

The thing that bothers me about anti-woke cultists is they have to take over every thread. This is not a thread about whether the game is so-called woke or not. It's about what the best mods for the game are.

TBH, the problem with that question is again it's too generic. Best mods of what kind? I personally am uninterested in mods that remove content (whether people call that stuff "woke" or not), I'm looking for stuff that adds content.

See the problem with the anti-woke cultists starts, when someone asks for the best mods and people bring in something like "no alphabets" as the "best mod". Then it quickly take off into different spheres and planes of existence just because of that.

[Banelord]

Originally posted by Levianne:

Originally posted by seeker1:

The thing that bothers me about anti-woke cultists is they have to take over every thread. This is not a thread about whether the game is so-called woke or not. It's about what the best mods for the game are.

TBH, the problem with that question is again it's too generic. Best mods of what kind? I personally am uninterested in mods that remove content (whether people call that stuff "woke" or not), I'm looking for stuff that adds content.

See the problem with the anti-woke cultists starts, when someone asks for the best mods and people bring in something like "no alphabets" as the "best mod". Then it quickly take off into different spheres and planes of existence just because of that.

It’s actually a solid set of mods, right up there with Faces of Faerun and All Deities. Turning that grating Dame Aylin character into a much more likable Ser Aylin is a nice touch... I’d say give it a go and see for yourself.

Not to mention, its usually the leftwing zealots taking this topic to new extremes, as, hopefully, you might have seen by yourself, often by attacking the freedom to mod single-player games.

In reality, mods like these are -per se- just tailoring gameplay for a more enjoyable experience, nothing more. Fanatics that tend to hijack them excluding.

[Levianne]

Originally posted by Banelord:

Originally posted by Levianne:

See the problem with the anti-woke cultists starts, when someone asks for the best mods and people bring in something like "no alphabets" as the "best mod". Then it quickly take off into different spheres and planes of existence just because of that.

It’s actually a solid set of mods, right up there with Faces of Faerun and All Deities. Turning that grating Dame Aylin character into a much more likable Ser Aylin is a nice touch... I’d say give it a go and see for yourself.

Not to mention, its usually the leftwing zealots taking this topic to new extremes, as, hopefully, you might have seen by yourself, often by attacking the freedom to mod single-player games.

In reality, mods like these are -per se- just tailoring gameplay for a more enjoyable experience, nothing more. Fanatics that tend to hijack them excluding.

Solid set of mods doesn't make it the best though.
If someone is asking for the best mods for a game (granted it's a tricky question in itself as pointed out), then recommending something, that is decent at best, without saying it's decent, is kinda bullcrap in my opinion. Calling stuff by the right names, saying that "I think this is pretty decent" when recommending stuff, I pretty much doubt it would kill anyone. But just blatantly recommend it as "the best option you can go with" is just ridiculous.

You for example make a good cause, you don't raise the mod to celestial heights, just saying "it's a solid set of mods" is fine in my book. It is, what it is. Plain simple.

Dame Ayilin might be whatever, I mean I don't really like her myself, but more for her fiery personality, her almost fanatical hate of Ketheric (which is justified as it was him, who captured her for Shar and imprisoned her in the first place), still she's kinda cringeful at least. But genderbending her into Ser Aylin? Just because she's in a same sex relationship with Isobel? She's the daughter of the goddess Selune, how does it work for that conversion. Don't tell me the goddess got a son now. Because Selune and Shar are two sisters centered heavilly around womankind. Most of their devote followers are women, because those two simply like it that way (yes, Ketheric used to worship both at some points, but there's still more female worshippers for a reason, there's also a reason, why Shar has a mother superior and not a patriarch type figure as a head of her church). Dame Ayilin being the most devote follower of her mother, just because she's her daughter is a solid part of who she is. Changing that doesn't feel good. Yes, she's quite annoying at times, but that's part of her character, not because she's a woman, and certainly not because she sleeps with a woman. There really is nothing the mod should change about her. So if it does, it's quite easy to judge it as being "against the lore", or "anti-woke" or anything of that sort.

[Banelord]

Originally posted by Levianne:

Dame Ayilin might be whatever, I mean I don't really like her myself, but more for her fiery personality, her almost fanatical hate of Ketheric (which is justified as it was him, who captured her for Shar and imprisoned her in the first place), still she's kinda cringeful at least. But genderbending her into Ser Aylin? Just because she's in a same sex relationship with Isobel? She's the daughter of the goddess Selune, how does it work for that conversion. Don't tell me the goddess got a son now. Because Selune and Shar are two sisters centered heavilly around womankind. Most of their devote followers are women, because those two simply like it that way (yes, Ketheric used to worship both at some points, but there's still more female worshippers for a reason, there's also a reason, why Shar has a mother superior and not a patriarch type figure as a head of her church). Dame Ayilin being the most devote follower of her mother, just because she's her daughter is a solid part of who she is. Changing that doesn't feel good. Yes, she's quite annoying at times, but that's part of her character, not because she's a woman, and certainly not because she sleeps with a woman. There really is nothing the mod should change about her. So if it does, it's quite easy to judge it as being "against the lore", or "anti-woke" or anything of that sort.

While I also usually hesitate with genderswapping mods, the change with Dame Aylin to Ser Aylin felt surprisingly natural to me, especially given Aylin's intense character and the complex lore around Selune and Shar. That devotion and fire became even more intriguing with the switch, adding a refreshing dynamic to Aylins interactions and relationships, including the one with Isobel.

It felt organic and refreshing, rather than just another DEI checkbox.

Even though it shifts teh 'daughter of Selune' aspect, the mod preserves Aylins core traits and fierce loyalty, now with a new angle that feels, in my opinion, even more fitting and natural. It still fits the theme of zealous followers dedicated to the goddesses, just with a different take.

If youre curious, Id recommend giving the mod a shot: you might find it adds unexpected depth to the story without diminishing Aylins character at all.

[harken23]

Originally posted by Banelord:

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Why would I install a mod that takes away options from me? Anyway, can I see that citation, please? Since it's obvious, it should be really easy for you to provide at least one or two.

Pansexuality in BG3 actually detracts from immersion, making characters feel less grounded. Its far more engaging when established NPCs have defined preferences, adds depth and makes the world feel more authentic, rather than every character adapting to suit the player.

No, it doesn't.

[Banelord]

Originally posted by harken23:

Originally posted by Banelord:

Pansexuality in BG3 actually detracts from immersion, making characters feel less grounded. Its far more engaging when established NPCs have defined preferences, adds depth and makes the world feel more authentic, rather than every character adapting to suit the player.

No, it doesn't.

Doesn’t…what, exactly? Have defined preferences? Detract from immersion? You’re gonna need to finish that thought, bud.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Banelord:

Originally posted by harken23:

No, it doesn't.

Doesn’t…what, exactly? Have defined preferences? Detract from immersion? You’re gonna need to finish that thought, bud.

Pansexuality is a defined preference.