Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Estevan Valladares Jul 23, 2024 @ 1:50pm
A lot of people talk about "innovation", yet ...
Half of the prizes this game earned are unmerited, but a lot of the praise Larian get is also unmerited, as a lot of BG3 features are "poorer versions" of something they "got handled in a silver platter".

https://youtu.be/bs6ZExEM5_A

That is one reason some people get really annoyed by this non sense about BG3.

Larian made a game in EA that was not the game they delivered, probably to get the engagement they needed for money, and once it was "done" they delivered what they "could". However, as the host of the video says:
"BG3 was taken from the people who really wanted to make it."
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Hobocop Jul 23, 2024 @ 1:54pm 
That's nice, but The Black Hound was never released, so that doesn't matter.
alanc9 Jul 23, 2024 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:
Larian made a game in EA that was not the game they delivered,

What on earth does this mean?
ReoHays Jul 23, 2024 @ 2:11pm 
You should go post this on the "Black Hound" boards. You may get a better reception.
r-cane Jul 23, 2024 @ 2:29pm 
Hey, everyone is allowed their own opinion. But since 96% of people give this game a thumbs up, maybe yours is wrong?!
TapewormJim (TJ) Jul 23, 2024 @ 3:58pm 
Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:
https://youtu.be/bs6ZExEM5_A

That is one reason some people get really annoyed by this non sense about BG3.

[...]

"BG3 was taken from the people who really wanted to make it."

This is actually a great ‘call out’.

An excerpt from the original BG:3 Black Hound story:

‘May Farrow and her gang of raiders have spent weeks tracking down the black hound, the essence of May's guilt for unleashing a great evil. The player character is resting by the firelight in an old barn to hide from the storm outside when a black hound arrives and after being shot twice by an arrow, it cries one last time before it dies on the player lap.’

Just that alone is better-written than Marvel’s Gayte 3: the silly little Larian version.

This is why we need the mod-editor, to allow for creating branching narratives of our own imagining - no need for a level editor. But a basic scripting tool - things enter the level, things happen - would be the icing on the cake.

I’m sure we’ll get neither, but it would be the tool that saves Larian for anyone who doesn’t like their storytelling stinking of Marvel-merde.

I mean, they even have a ‘female prot’ here who’s sympathetic, flawed and interesting, rather than being some ‘inclusivtiy checkbox’.

I love that they boldly had no intention to include any of the original cast.

Meanwhile, Larian wheels out Sarevok and Viconia, in particular, and does them dirty, dirty bad.

Viconia looks like a man. Sarevok looks and sounds nothing like the Sarevok you meet in TOB, and he was the only cool character in it.

Give us the tools, fools!

Seriously.

Let us write our own games.

Whoever came up with the plot of BG3: Black Hound is a literal genius compared to the dumb-asses who turned the series into a quippy, derivative, micro-brained abomination of what any thinking mind would call fiction.
Last edited by TapewormJim (TJ); Jul 23, 2024 @ 4:10pm
Viper Jul 23, 2024 @ 4:05pm 
BG3 is one of the best games all time. So I sincerely doubt anyone could have done better. Game of the year is game of the year.
GriffinPilgrim Jul 23, 2024 @ 4:09pm 
This is Van Buren all over again. Every unreleased entry in a well loved series gets hyped up into some work of genius that would have set the world on fire.
Maybe Black Hound would have been better than BG3. Maybe it would have been about the same quality. Maybe it would have been utterly awful. We don't know and, barring some means of travel to the alternate universe where it got made, we never will because it didn't get made.
Any game can sound amazing in a pitch. Actually realising such a vision is hard.
You don't have to like BG3, that's your opinion and it is valid. But suggesting Larian "stole" the game or that they didn't put a metric ton of work into it is absurd. Holding that others would have done it better in a hypothetical game that does not exist is guesswork at best.
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SirLío Jul 23, 2024 @ 4:19pm 
This BG3 game was cancelled because of Interplay in 2003. It wasn't taken from them. I'm sure Black Isle wanted to make a really good game and I really like their writting, but I'm not gonna dismiss the fact Larian also really wanted to make a good BG3 and put a lot of work into it.
Last edited by SirLío; Jul 23, 2024 @ 4:25pm
DeMasked Jul 23, 2024 @ 4:51pm 
OP, video creator and other comments are just seething with jealousy at Larian's success.

They had Divinity 1 and 2 under their belt which gained the attention required for BG3 and finally now that they are free from restrictive rule sets and publishers they can make a new game of their own desire.
Originally posted by DeMasked:
OP, video creator and other comments are just seething with jealousy at Larian's success.

They had Divinity 1 and 2 under their belt which gained the attention required for BG3 and finally now that they are free from restrictive rule sets and publishers they can make a new game of their own desire.
Said success should have come from the two better games that they released previously, not an overhyped mess which is their worst outing yet within the decade.
DeMasked Jul 23, 2024 @ 8:14pm 
Originally posted by Ereghor the Enigmatic:
Originally posted by DeMasked:
OP, video creator and other comments are just seething with jealousy at Larian's success.

They had Divinity 1 and 2 under their belt which gained the attention required for BG3 and finally now that they are free from restrictive rule sets and publishers they can make a new game of their own desire.
Said success should have come from the two better games that they released previously, not an overhyped mess which is their worst outing yet within the decade.

Some things I like more with Divinity Original Sin 2 and some things I like more with Baldur's Gate 3. Unless you are talking about BG1 and 2 which I haven't touched as they look a bit too old.
Hobocop Jul 23, 2024 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by DeMasked:
Some things I like more with Divinity Original Sin 2 and some things I like more with Baldur's Gate 3. Unless you are talking about BG1 and 2 which I haven't touched as they look a bit too old.

Not to mention that D:OS2 was a massive success next to its contemporaries with similar budgets and served as the proof of concept that landed them the license to begin with.

So...dunno what people even want.
Quillithe Jul 23, 2024 @ 8:30pm 
Yeah it's not like Larian was responsible for getting the Black Hound cancelled anyway so I fail to see the relevance.
Tresh Jul 23, 2024 @ 8:55pm 
My dude, what's your problem? Genuinely asking why you are wasting so much of your time posting nonsense on a forum about a game that you seem to hate. Show me on the doll where the game touched you.
As for everyone else, stop giving them attention and awards for loe quality bait posts, maybe they'll move on with their life then.

This is just sad.
Altimely Jul 23, 2024 @ 9:22pm 
Another case of "I have over 1000 hours in this game and I don't recommend it". This isn't a case of a live-service game drastically changing its business model or core gameplay. From Early Access to the latest patch; BG3 has been consistent in what it has delivered.
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Date Posted: Jul 23, 2024 @ 1:50pm
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