Shadowheart permanently left the party

[EASY PETE]

How was i supposed to know she would throw a hissy fit if i enter the shadowfell without her? Or perhaps I wasn't paying attention when she was rambling before

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[Tax evasion]

I wasn't paying attention when she was rambling before

Ding ding ding.
She clearly tells you multiple times why this location is important to her, what that location is, and what her endgoal for that location is.

[EASY PETE]

Big sad time oh well lesson learned, i still have all my other companions

[Estevan Valladares]

The very old and nice wisdom of RPG:
"You can roleplay a stupid character, you should not expect to be rewarded for it."

That woman spends most of her wake time talking about "her lady Shar" and "I want to be a dark justiciar" and all that nagging I myself have removed her from my playthroughs for.

You cant even claim "I wasnt paying attention", because it is "hammered" on your brain and burned in your retina that she only lives for that.

Unless you are in a debilitating feat of ADHD driven by terminal stage of Parkinsons, there is no way you can simply "obliviate" that crap if you stay with her that long.

So, yeah, kinda stupid.

[Tresh]

Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:

The very old and nice wisdom of RPG:
"You can roleplay a stupid character, you should not expect to be rewarded for it."

That woman spends most of her wake time talking about "her lady Shar" and "I want to be a dark justiciar" and all that nagging I myself have removed her from my playthroughs for.

You cant even claim "I wasnt paying attention", because it is "hammered" on your brain and burned in your retina that she only lives for that.

Unless you are in a debilitating feat of ADHD driven by terminal stage of Parkinsons, there is no way you can simply "obliviate" that crap if you stay with her that long.

So, yeah, kinda stupid.

If you barely talk to her, you can entirely miss it. Happened in the first co-op playthrough I did with a friend, we just didn't talk to her because neither of us cared enough to ever take her into our party.

Also, ADHD and Parkinsons are completely different disorders, maybe educate yourself instead of sounding like an ass.

[vamirez]

Dunno - I kicked her ass out when it was revealed that she worships an evil god.

[PraiseTheHolyMango]

u lost a waifu mann

[Tempest Fox3]

Originally posted by vamirez:

Dunno - I kicked her ass out when it was revealed that she worships an evil god.

Bruh

[FunkyMonkey]

Originally posted by vamirez:

Dunno - I kicked her ass out when it was revealed that she worships an evil god.

I mean... Cool?

[The Sylvan Learning Center]

Originally posted by vamirez:

Dunno - I kicked her ass out when it was revealed that she worships an evil god.

Yes... YES!!!

[vamirez]

Originally posted by Tempest Fox3:

Originally posted by vamirez:

Dunno - I kicked her ass out when it was revealed that she worships an evil god.

Bruh

Well, consider for a moment that for the characters in this world, this evil god giving her magical power is actually real. She is not a simple worshipper who wants to placate that god out of fear, which would be common in polytheism. She is actually a priestess of that god. This is nothing like an edgy hot goth teen satanist. Same goes for "vampire in the party". Seriously, basically noone would go with that.

[FunkyMonkey]

Originally posted by vamirez:

Originally posted by Tempest Fox3:

Bruh

Well, consider for a moment that for the characters in this world, this evil god giving her magical power is actually real. She is not a simple worshipper who wants to placate that god out of fear, which would be common in polytheism. She is actually a priestess of that god. This is nothing like an edgy hot goth teen satanist. Same goes for "vampire in the party". Seriously, basically noone would go with that.

Well, it does make sense. Except for the fact that you all have a brain bug and it's not unreasonable under those circumstances to take all the help you can get.

[vamirez]

Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:

Originally posted by vamirez:

Well, consider for a moment that for the characters in this world, this evil god giving her magical power is actually real. She is not a simple worshipper who wants to placate that god out of fear, which would be common in polytheism. She is actually a priestess of that god. This is nothing like an edgy hot goth teen satanist. Same goes for "vampire in the party". Seriously, basically noone would go with that.

Well, it does make sense. Except for the fact that you all have a brain bug and it's not unreasonable under those circumstances to take all the help you can get.

Good point, and some characters may consider that, or feel like they have no choice, but the common or more normal reaction to actual evil priests and undead would be to get away from them asap. And people like good priests, paladins, dwarves, elves, etc. should have an even stronger reaction.

[FunkyMonkey]

Originally posted by vamirez:

Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:

Well, it does make sense. Except for the fact that you all have a brain bug and it's not unreasonable under those circumstances to take all the help you can get.

Good point, and some characters may consider that, or feel like they have no choice, but the common or more normal reaction to actual evil priests and undead would be to get away from them asap. And people like good priests, paladins, dwarves, elves, etc. should have an even stronger reaction.

Yeah, it wouldn't be outside RP reasons to kick her out. I just think there are RP reasons to keep her, as well, and just kicking her out immediately is a bit short-sighted.

[vamirez]

Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:

Originally posted by vamirez:

Good point, and some characters may consider that, or feel like they have no choice, but the common or more normal reaction to actual evil priests and undead would be to get away from them asap. And people like good priests, paladins, dwarves, elves, etc. should have an even stronger reaction.

Yeah, it wouldn't be outside RP reasons to kick her out. I just think there are RP reasons to keep her, as well, and just kicking her out immediately is a bit short-sighted.

Short-sighted on the survival aspect - perhaps. On the other hand, such folk are not trustworthy at all, especially in a predicament like this. Like I said, yes, sure - some people may consider this to improve their chances, or see no other way, or be on the dark side of things themselves and just love to have those guys around - and it's fine that the game allows all that.

However, on the side of "I don't want to travel with clearly evil folks", I feel the game doesn't provide good alternatives unfortunately. It wants you to keep everyone - I mean, even if you kick someone out, they are still in the camp and "travel with you"... and if you do separate from the evil folks early you have no choice but to use the custom hirelings. Which is weird, frankly. Sorry, going a bit on a side tangent here.

[FunkyMonkey]

Originally posted by vamirez:

Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:

Yeah, it wouldn't be outside RP reasons to kick her out. I just think there are RP reasons to keep her, as well, and just kicking her out immediately is a bit short-sighted.

Short-sighted on the survival aspect - perhaps. On the other hand, such folk are not trustworthy at all, especially in a predicament like this. Like I said, yes, sure - some people may consider this to improve their chances, or see no other way, or be on the dark side of things themselves and just love to have those guys around - and it's fine that the game allows all that.

However, on the side of "I don't want to travel with clearly evil folks", I feel the game doesn't provide good alternatives unfortunately. It wants you to keep everyone - I mean, even if you kick someone out, they are still in the camp and "travel with you"... and if you do separate from the evil folks early you have no choice but to use the custom hirelings. Which is weird, frankly. Sorry, going a bit on a side tangent here.

I would also argue that Shadowheart doesn't do any explicitely "evil" acts and actually approves if you do, like be nice to animals and help children in trouble. Sure, she is a worshipper of an evil goddess, but her actions don't really scream "evil", at least IMO.