Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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gimpdr Aug 21, 2024 @ 6:39pm
romancing as a gnome, halfling or dwarf.
just feels weird to me. specially as a duergar dwarf, would have been nice if larian put a short race in to romance.
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Aranador Aug 23, 2024 @ 8:45am 
Alas, developers can not win, they can not produce infinite content, and any content they do produce, someone will come and get 'offended' at something or other, while other people will make use of AI cat bots to farm points. If there was a short race romance, you can bet bottom dollar that someone would be trying to claim it as child exploitation or something. So you know what the devs do? they make the game they want to, and they ignore the trolls.
Tokogawa [GER] Aug 23, 2024 @ 11:14am 
Yeah it does feel off but I assume they did that to avoid opening a can of worms about being able to romance a Character in Children size.

Sure you see them all around and you can play them but better save then sorry. I do have a Halfling/Gnome/Dwarf in my Party from the Hirelings doe when playing one myself to fill that spot as I feel its lacking. Also a Gnome + Halfling Party just feels right
Last edited by Tokogawa [GER]; Aug 23, 2024 @ 11:15am
alanc9 Aug 23, 2024 @ 12:02pm 
What are people talking about, exactly? I'm in the middle of Act 3 playing a dwarf romancing Gale, and I haven't seen any problems yet.

Which scenes have issues?
chemiman Aug 23, 2024 @ 1:10pm 
Now that's funny... Several months ago, I asked the same question. The answer was, no, there is no small romance option.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/0/3880473533207773272/
The Yeen Queen Aug 23, 2024 @ 2:10pm 
Originally posted by wtiger27:
Originally posted by space cowgirl joy:
what political agenda? remember when mass effect came out? and people like Jack Thompson were tryin to get it banned cuz you could be gay with Liara T'Soni? thats what you people have turned into, its honestly sad

You people? lol. You do know there is a group of people who would take offense to that comment. And I am not calling for BG3 to be banned. :p

Nice dodging of the question.
alanc9 Aug 23, 2024 @ 3:41pm 
Originally posted by chemiman:
Now that's funny... Several months ago, I asked the same question. The answer was, no, there is no small romance option.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/0/3880473533207773272/

Unless you make one yourself.
Panzerbjorne39 Aug 23, 2024 @ 5:52pm 
Originally posted by Aranador:
Alas, developers can not win, they can not produce infinite content, and any content they do produce, someone will come and get 'offended' at something or other, while other people will make use of AI cat bots to farm points. If there was a short race romance, you can bet bottom dollar that someone would be trying to claim it as child exploitation or something. So you know what the devs do? they make the game they want to, and they ignore the trolls.

No I think instead they play it safe and choose only attractive elf’s and humans that won’t offend anyone. All this nonsense with everyone being offended by everything and very vocal about it online has done nothing but stifle and oppress creativity. Trying to please all these tiny vocal minorities that bully everyone into submission.
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$CRWD Aug 23, 2024 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by SeeK:
Originally posted by gimpdr:
just feels weird to me. specially as a duergar dwarf, would have been nice if larian put a short race in to romance.
There was going to be a halfling werewolf companion, but larian scrapped her because people kept asking for lame ass Halsin as a companion

Someone stated the opposite on reddit 10 months ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/17nk206/the_companion_that_got_scrapped_because_of_halsin/

Is this what you were referring to?
This is one of those things that propel the obvious to people but even slapped on their faces with it, they never learn: Freedom is a transitive concept.

Freedom from, freedom for and freedom of have tremendously different implications and meanings that the "zealots of freedom" forget wherever they are making their points.

If you could actually make a game that NPCs have preferences and players have to understand them, work could be done to accommodate a lot.

This is one of those cases, the more obvious, but almost EVERY DESIGN DECISION in games which make them crap are because of that.

You could have specific companions who like you if you are of a short race, and companions who like you if you have a tall race, so they dont have to make all companions fit all, the same way they could have companions who like males and companions who like females.

But no, preference is "discrimination" (which it is, but discrimination I saying here in quotes is the dumb idea people made of it) and you cant have that. People might not like Laezel, but they are infuriated if she wasnt into Halflings because they look like weaklings.

So all the work must be made to make the most hours count, so instead of "paying for more hours to actually make every companion compatible with every player decision", they "make do with the most they are inclined to do".

Romance with short races is the least of the problems. Almost every design decision in game (the things that can work in all the ways but one is chosen to better suit the needs), contrary to demands of them (the things required once a design decision is chosen), they are all made with the "absurd demand" that "all fits all", because if not, the "zealots of freedom" will be outraged they cant do what they would not even.

And as someone will sure prove if criticizing my comment, people dont really understand how the freedom for being confounded with freedom from is what makes the modern stuff become a trend of tasteless stuff no one actually can like.
Wolfherz Aug 23, 2024 @ 6:44pm 
The short races don't breed like the taller ones. Gnomes, Dwarves, etc all just pop out of the ground.
alanc9 Aug 23, 2024 @ 7:00pm 
I'm still waiting to hear where the actual problems are.

Does anyone have anything?
Hobocop Aug 24, 2024 @ 10:15am 
Originally posted by alanc9:
I did. The dates are all wrong. She was cut way before EA. Since Halsin only became a companion because of the strong EA response, and the werewolf had been cut long before that response happened, your theory is crap.

Yeah, that halfling companion was never introduced in a publicly playable build at any point during development.
Last edited by Hobocop; Aug 24, 2024 @ 10:19am
$CRWD Aug 24, 2024 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by Hobocop:
Originally posted by alanc9:
I did. The dates are all wrong. She was cut way before EA. Since Halsin only became a companion because of the strong EA response, and the werewolf had been cut long before that response happened, your theory is crap.

Yeah, that halfling companion was never introduced in a publicly playable build at any point during development.

A halfling bard werewolf grandma would've been far more interesting than Halsin, frankly. Fortunately it looked like both were slated to exist alongside one another. We needed another Kreia -- as a companion in RPGs/RPGs generally.
Last edited by $CRWD; Aug 24, 2024 @ 10:54am
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