The ULTIMATE Astarion Build: Monk Ascendant

[DexgamingX]

Class Build:

Monk 7: Way of the open hand subclass for main source of damage and must-have passives, take Tavern Brawler feat at 4

Rogue 4: Thief subclass for extra bonus action and ASI feat for +2 STR

Barbarian 1: For unarmored defense based on CON, which gives +6 AC

Stats:

Base: STR 17, DEX 16, CON 8, INT 8, WIS 13, CHA 12

Improved: STR 24, DEX 18, CON 23, INT 8, WIS 13, CHA 12

Items:

Helmet: Horns of the Berserker (+2 to attack rolls, +2 Necrotic damage per unarmed attack)

Cloak: Cloak of Protection (+1 AC)

Chest: The Graceful Cloth (+2 DEX)

Gloves: Gloves of Soul Catching (1-10 Force damage per unarmed attack and heals 10 HP once a turn)

Boots: Bonespike Boots (+1 AC and saving throws, increases jump range, and gives Brutal Leap)

Amulet: Amulet of Greater Health (CON 23)

Ring 1: Crusher's Ring (+3m movement)

Ring 2: Ring of Free Action (bunch of utility)

Other key buffs:

Auntie Ethel's boon: +1 STR

Bite Araj Oblodra: +2 STR

Vampire ascendant: 1-10 Necrotic damage per unarmed attack

Mirror of loss +2 STR

Without anything, you land 4 attacks per turn. Haste and Ki points crank that up to 8 attacks per turn. Each one hits like a truck too. Roughly 280 avg damage per turn. Consistently. You're welcome.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Mattias:

Are you one of those ppl who go on steam forums to try to bait ppl so you then can report them, getting them banned?

If you think you're being baited, don't respond to the bait. You are responsible for your own actions.

Also kinda hard to bait people if it's the original post in the thread that you're reporting

[larhtas]

Originally posted by Mattias:

Originally posted by larhtas:

I did ^^ i have posted the same message in the other link.


Hey @AokiYahumo, I'm not a native English speaker, so I don't understand your sentence. I tried to translate it into my language (with ChatGPT), but the translation is still confusing to me .

Are you one of those ppl who go on steam forums to try to bait ppl so you then can report them, getting them banned?

No i don't feel like i have baited anyone here.
But this kind of thread is unnecessary especially when OP doesn't put any good faith in it.
I really dislike "woke/anti-woke" thread but at least people that are making them put some... Let say "passion" in it (I think you must be a little invested to push yourself crying in a forum full of rando).
Here we got nothing:

Originally posted by Dexgaming:

Yeah, it's a bit of an idiot strategy but you can buy badges with steam points that you get from the awards, with those badges you level up and that increases your booster card pack drop rate, which can be sold for credit to buy games with.

OP even announce that he is here for steam points. If everyone does that there will be no forum anymore or one that is full of stupid thread.
I think that i can make a move to avoid that to the forum by reporting and eventually invite people to do so too.

EDIT: OP COMPLETELY CHANGED HIS TEXT AND TITLE.
So to keep up with the thread for new reader i'm informing you that this thread was another complains about woke that OP copy pasted in several other game forum on steam.
The other thread i have linked in Hades in the beginning of the conversation has been completely removed by the moderator.
Have all a nice day.

[acSiegemaster]

Give points kthx

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by Mattias:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

If you think you're being baited, don't respond to the bait. You are responsible for your own actions.

I was only asking him/her ...

Should've probably used "them", they don't have pronouns in bio.

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by Dexgaming:

Insert Out-Dated guide from "TheGamer" article here . . .

First off, if you're gonna journobait people, don't do it to PC gamers. This thread was originally a "Woke/Anti-Woke" thread posted copypasta style to about 17 different game forums on Steam, you're not slick.

Second, your build is out-dated. MNK 9 / ROG 3 is the go-to TB-MNK build.

- Your items are horribly unoptimized.
- - Horns of the Berserker are better for Bear Totem or Berserker BRBs who can resist the self-damage.
- - Cloak of Protection hits diminishing returns on a MNK who can realistically hit AC 22 by Act III (AC plateaus at the AC 24 range because you hit the point of either only getting hit on a crit or facing opponents who will hit you on an 8 regardless), you really ought to switch to Cloak of Displacement or Shadeslayer Cloak.
- - Graceful Cloth? Really? There's a Sparkswall robe in Act I that's infinitely better thanks to the fact you'll be using Sparkle Hands up to the point you win the Soulcatching Gloves from Raphael (+1 AC and all saves while holding Lightning Charges, which . . . you're gonna have Lightning Charges like ALL THE TIME so why the f*ck not).
- - Soulcatching Gloves is the ONLY thing that's accurate here, and ONLY in Act III. Before that point you really ought to use Sparkle Hands because it's blanket advantage with free +1 to your attack rolls which is RARE for unarmed attacks (85% of your opponents will be wearing metal armor, even a 50% chance to hit is 75% and you won't even need Ki to activate it).
- - Kushigo Boots are RIGHT THERE. +WIS to damage on a MNK is stupid. Don't ever use Bonespike Boots here, save those for an end-game BRB build or something. Or sell them, they're mid af anyways and most other boots you get before then are just plain better (Boots of Stormy Clamour, Boots of Aid and Comfort, Watersparklers, Boots of Striding, Disintegrating Nightwalkers, Hoarfrost Boots, Evasive Shoes, Springstep Boots, Helldusk Boots, etc.)
- - We really gonna talk about the fact you plainly overlooked Callous Glow and Caustic Band? On a class that gets 4-6 attacks per turn unbuffed? That's +8-+12 damage you're missing out on.
- - Same thing with Broodmother's Revenge, like you should be killing things before they have a chance to react, CON is NOT helpful for you at all. Give that health amulet to your WIZ who needs to make concentration checks.

- The BRB level is completely redundant. A Support should be able to give you on-demand phys resist at like any time - if you don't already benefit from Warding Bond.

- You can get a more even stat spread with 13 STR, 17 DEX, 12 CON, 8 INT, 15 WIS, 10 CHA. With the buffs you mentioned prior you should be able to hit 18 STR, 20 DEX, 12 CON, 8 INT, 15 WIS, 10 CHA easily enough, which is still +11 to hit with the aforementioned armor changes for 1d8+1d10+1d6+14 per hit, for 4-6 attacks per round, before Cloud Giant elixirs which will take it to 1d8+1d10+1d6+22 per hit. Assuming CGE buffs, that's an average of 142-213 damage WITHOUT HASTE, while holding an AC of 20-21 with passive disadvantage and a move speed unbuffed of 45ft or 13.5m (which is gonna be 55ft at base thanks to Longstrider) and a jump distance of 22.5m or 75ft.

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With all due disrespect, get fawked little one.

[CovetousBeing]

Originally posted by AokiYakumo:

Originally posted by Dexgaming:

Insert Out-Dated guide from "TheGamer" article here . . .

First off, if you're gonna journobait people, don't do it to PC gamers. This thread was originally a "Woke/Anti-Woke" thread posted copypasta style to about 17 different game forums on Steam, you're not slick.

Second, your build is out-dated. MNK 9 / ROG 3 is the go-to TB-MNK build.

- Your items are horribly unoptimized.
- - Horns of the Berserker are better for Bear Totem or Berserker BRBs who can resist the self-damage.
- - Cloak of Protection hits diminishing returns on a MNK who can realistically hit AC 22 by Act III (AC plateaus at the AC 24 range because you hit the point of either only getting hit on a crit or facing opponents who will hit you on an 8 regardless), you really ought to switch to Cloak of Displacement or Shadeslayer Cloak.
- - Graceful Cloth? Really? There's a Sparkswall robe in Act I that's infinitely better thanks to the fact you'll be using Sparkle Hands up to the point you win the Soulcatching Gloves from Raphael (+1 AC and all saves while holding Lightning Charges, which . . . you're gonna have Lightning Charges like ALL THE TIME so why the f*ck not).
- - Soulcatching Gloves is the ONLY thing that's accurate here, and ONLY in Act III. Before that point you really ought to use Sparkle Hands because it's blanket advantage with free +1 to your attack rolls which is RARE for unarmed attacks (85% of your opponents will be wearing metal armor, even a 50% chance to hit is 75% and you won't even need Ki to activate it).
- - Kushigo Boots are RIGHT THERE. +WIS to damage on a MNK is stupid. Don't ever use Bonespike Boots here, save those for an end-game BRB build or something. Or sell them, they're mid af anyways and most other boots you get before then are just plain better (Boots of Stormy Clamour, Boots of Aid and Comfort, Watersparklers, Boots of Striding, Disintegrating Nightwalkers, Hoarfrost Boots, Evasive Shoes, Springstep Boots, Helldusk Boots, etc.)
- - We really gonna talk about the fact you plainly overlooked Callous Glow and Caustic Band? On a class that gets 4-6 attacks per turn unbuffed? That's +8-+12 damage you're missing out on.
- - Same thing with Broodmother's Revenge, like you should be killing things before they have a chance to react, CON is NOT helpful for you at all. Give that health amulet to your WIZ who needs to make concentration checks.

- The BRB level is completely redundant. A Support should be able to give you on-demand phys resist at like any time - if you don't already benefit from Warding Bond.

- You can get a more even stat spread with 13 STR, 17 DEX, 12 CON, 8 INT, 15 WIS, 10 CHA. With the buffs you mentioned prior you should be able to hit 18 STR, 20 DEX, 12 CON, 8 INT, 15 WIS, 10 CHA easily enough, which is still +11 to hit with the aforementioned armor changes for 1d8+1d10+1d6+14 per hit, for 4-6 attacks per round, before Cloud Giant elixirs which will take it to 1d8+1d10+1d6+22 per hit. Assuming CGE buffs, that's an average of 142-213 damage WITHOUT HASTE, while holding an AC of 20-21 with passive disadvantage and a move speed unbuffed of 45ft or 13.5m (which is gonna be 55ft at base thanks to Longstrider) and a jump distance of 22.5m or 75ft.

-----

With all due disrespect, get fawked little one.

why are you being so mean, he just made a guide bro chill

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by CovetousBeing:

Originally posted by AokiYakumo:

First off, if you're gonna journobait people, don't do it to PC gamers. This thread was originally a "Woke/Anti-Woke" thread posted copypasta style to about 17 different game forums on Steam, you're not slick.

Second, your build is out-dated. MNK 9 / ROG 3 is the go-to TB-MNK build.

- Your items are horribly unoptimized.
- - Horns of the Berserker are better for Bear Totem or Berserker BRBs who can resist the self-damage.
- - Cloak of Protection hits diminishing returns on a MNK who can realistically hit AC 22 by Act III (AC plateaus at the AC 24 range because you hit the point of either only getting hit on a crit or facing opponents who will hit you on an 8 regardless), you really ought to switch to Cloak of Displacement or Shadeslayer Cloak.
- - Graceful Cloth? Really? There's a Sparkswall robe in Act I that's infinitely better thanks to the fact you'll be using Sparkle Hands up to the point you win the Soulcatching Gloves from Raphael (+1 AC and all saves while holding Lightning Charges, which . . . you're gonna have Lightning Charges like ALL THE TIME so why the f*ck not).
- - Soulcatching Gloves is the ONLY thing that's accurate here, and ONLY in Act III. Before that point you really ought to use Sparkle Hands because it's blanket advantage with free +1 to your attack rolls which is RARE for unarmed attacks (85% of your opponents will be wearing metal armor, even a 50% chance to hit is 75% and you won't even need Ki to activate it).
- - Kushigo Boots are RIGHT THERE. +WIS to damage on a MNK is stupid. Don't ever use Bonespike Boots here, save those for an end-game BRB build or something. Or sell them, they're mid af anyways and most other boots you get before then are just plain better (Boots of Stormy Clamour, Boots of Aid and Comfort, Watersparklers, Boots of Striding, Disintegrating Nightwalkers, Hoarfrost Boots, Evasive Shoes, Springstep Boots, Helldusk Boots, etc.)
- - We really gonna talk about the fact you plainly overlooked Callous Glow and Caustic Band? On a class that gets 4-6 attacks per turn unbuffed? That's +8-+12 damage you're missing out on.
- - Same thing with Broodmother's Revenge, like you should be killing things before they have a chance to react, CON is NOT helpful for you at all. Give that health amulet to your WIZ who needs to make concentration checks.

- The BRB level is completely redundant. A Support should be able to give you on-demand phys resist at like any time - if you don't already benefit from Warding Bond.

- You can get a more even stat spread with 13 STR, 17 DEX, 12 CON, 8 INT, 15 WIS, 10 CHA. With the buffs you mentioned prior you should be able to hit 18 STR, 20 DEX, 12 CON, 8 INT, 15 WIS, 10 CHA easily enough, which is still +11 to hit with the aforementioned armor changes for 1d8+1d10+1d6+14 per hit, for 4-6 attacks per round, before Cloud Giant elixirs which will take it to 1d8+1d10+1d6+22 per hit. Assuming CGE buffs, that's an average of 142-213 damage WITHOUT HASTE, while holding an AC of 20-21 with passive disadvantage and a move speed unbuffed of 45ft or 13.5m (which is gonna be 55ft at base thanks to Longstrider) and a jump distance of 22.5m or 75ft.

-----

With all due disrespect, get fawked little one.

why are you being so mean, he just made a guide bro chill

It wasn't a guide originally, it was originally titled "BG3 is not Woke Enough" and had some dribble about lack of representation or some sh*t.

Read the conversation after the "guide-post", that should fill you in.

[CovetousBeing]

Originally posted by AokiYakumo:

Originally posted by CovetousBeing:

why are you being so mean, he just made a guide bro chill

It wasn't a guide originally, it was originally titled "BG3 is not Woke Enough" and had some dribble about lack of representation or some sh*t.

Read the conversation after the "guide-post", that should fill you in.

oh, so you're a homophobe then? get lost bigot

[DexgamingX]

Originally posted by CovetousBeing:

Originally posted by AokiYakumo:

It wasn't a guide originally, it was originally titled "BG3 is not Woke Enough" and had some dribble about lack of representation or some sh*t.

Read the conversation after the "guide-post", that should fill you in.

oh, so you're a homophobe then? get lost bigot

He's not a homophobe dude, I'm in the wrong here, I made a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing trying to farm steam points, I'd delete the post if I could but I can't so I just changed it for the better instead. This guy's done nothing wrong

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by CovetousBeing:

Originally posted by AokiYakumo:

It wasn't a guide originally, it was originally titled "BG3 is not Woke Enough" and had some dribble about lack of representation or some sh*t.

Read the conversation after the "guide-post", that should fill you in.

oh, so you're a homophobe then? get lost bigot

You're missing significant context from the initial post. OP was being transparently disingenuous in calling for greater/further representation of LGBTQ persons; the post was--prior to being edited--a pretty obviously hyperbolic imitation of *genuine* calls for representation in media. It read a bit like the average high school kid's understanding of satire, and was very clearly meant to be both inflammatory and an act of mockery toward LGBTQ persons and allies.

The fact that the *entire OP* has been completely shifted to an utterly unrelated matter in an obvious ploy to make existing replies to the original, unedited post appear unhinged should be a dead giveaway. Think before you bite a hook, man.

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by Dexgaming:

Originally posted by CovetousBeing:

oh, so you're a homophobe then? get lost bigot

He's not a homophobe dude, I'm in the wrong here, I made a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing trying to farm steam points, I'd delete the post if I could but I can't so I just changed it for the better instead. This guy's done nothing wrong

See above. At least OP has the stones to admit it.

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by CovetousBeing:

Originally posted by AokiYakumo:

It wasn't a guide originally, it was originally titled "BG3 is not Woke Enough" and had some dribble about lack of representation or some sh*t.

Read the conversation after the "guide-post", that should fill you in.

oh, so you're a homophobe then? get lost bigot

Must not have read the full conversation then, if THAT'S your takeaway.

No matter. I'd rather you show me your true colors here than attempt a conversation with someone obviously not in good faith.

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

Originally posted by CovetousBeing:

oh, so you're a homophobe then? get lost bigot

You're missing significant context from the initial post. OP was being transparently disingenuous in calling for greater/further representation of LGBTQ persons; the post was--prior to being edited--a pretty obviously hyperbolic imitation of *genuine* calls for representation in media. It read a bit like the average high school kid's understanding of satire, and was very clearly meant to be both inflammatory and an act of mockery toward LGBTQ persons and allies.

The fact that the *entire OP* has been completely shifted to an utterly unrelated matter in an obvious ploy to make existing replies to the original, unedited post appear unhinged should be a dead giveaway. Think before you bite a hook, man.

Tell you what, that's the first time I got called a homophobe for DEFENDING the LGBT+ representation that was already in the game.

[DexgamingX]

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

Originally posted by CovetousBeing:

oh, so you're a homophobe then? get lost bigot

You're missing significant context from the initial post. OP was being transparently disingenuous in calling for greater/further representation of LGBTQ persons; the post was--prior to being edited--a pretty obviously hyperbolic imitation of *genuine* calls for representation in media. It read a bit like the average high school kid's understanding of satire, and was very clearly meant to be both inflammatory and an act of mockery toward LGBTQ persons and allies.

The fact that the *entire OP* has been completely shifted to an utterly unrelated matter in an obvious ploy to make existing replies to the original, unedited post appear unhinged should be a dead giveaway. Think before you bite a hook, man.

Yeah apologies for my actions, just wanna make it clear I have nothing against LGBTQ people, I'm gay myself