Wow am I disappointed by the slayer form. Why hasn't this bugged garbage been fixed?

[joefitts63]

Went through 2/3s of the game. Finally got slayer form. Joined battle as slayer. Jumped and forced 4 opponents to save vs knockdown. ALL of them saved. Checked combat log. DC was determined by my CHA??? This makes absolutely no sense. Slayer form should be using STR to determine DC of saves. Doesn't matter what your class is, slayer overrides it and should be using STR.

Huge bug that completely robbed me of the reward for getting slayer form. Felt like I wasted all the time I put in to that point.

[Nauct]

First off the tooltips in this game are whack and wrong a lot of the time you shouldn't trust them. Look at the actual rolls in the combat log.
Secondly my primary stat on my Durge is 24, so yes I would like it to use that stat if it does work that way.

If you really want to make the from work get the shapeshift gear, lots of gear with +1d4 bonus to everything while shapeshifted. Orins Chest piece. Get haste on yourself before combat. The form is outstanding if you set up correctly for it, trash if you're just using it with no planning

Edit: Forgot to mention I have BOOOALs Benediction, so advantage against bleeding targets, which synergizes very well. Bleed stuff on your team will do wonders

[joefitts63]

Originally posted by Nauct:

First off the tooltips in this game are whack and wrong a lot of the time you shouldn't trust them. Look at the actual rolls in the combat log.
Secondly my primary stat on my Durge is 24, so yes I would like it to use that stat if it does work that way.

If you really want to make the from work get the shapeshift gear, lots of gear with +1d4 bonus to everything while shapeshifted. Orins Chest piece. Get haste on yourself before combat. The form is outstanding if you set up correctly for it, trash if you're just using it with no planning

Edit: Forgot to mention I have BOOOALs Benediction, so advantage against bleeding targets, which synergizes very well. Bleed stuff on your team will do wonders

You don't seem to understand. The slayer form changes all your stats. It sets CHA to 9. So if your Durge is a CHA based character, your slayer form has a PENALTY to DC for his physical attacks. It uses your normal primary stat for determining DC, but using the slayer's stats. Only STR based characters work correctly in slayer form. Which sucks.

[TaKo]

its a very easy fix too, just gotta change the SourceSpellDC on the spellroll entries for the abilities to ManeuverSaveDC, maybe with some bonuses to the DC

or just raise their charisma from the form's override?

[Chaosolous]

I never noticed. I was a Warlock on that run.

[TaKo]

actually looking into the files, they are set to use dex(????) as their spellcasting stat

[Knight Lamune]

I didn't even notice; the form was woefully underpowered versus my base rogue and not even half as lethal as a cheesed off gnome sociopath so I used it once and never again.

[wtiger27]

I was disappointed in the whole Dark Urge experience. I won't be playing another run as such. Slayer Form was not impressive ether.

[Draknalor]

The form is pretty funny.

I went from a 75% hit change out of form to a 20% hit chance in form.

[brendan_in_china]

This is just like BG2 where your fighter became _weaker_ in slayer form. I guess they nailed it right then...