Ketheric oneshotting my party

[JC]

First fight with him and I am just being obliterated by his attacks. He does 70+ damage with one attack and just oneshots my main char and Laezel who are supposed to be somewhat tanky.
I am just so lost with what am I supposed to do there.
Adds aren't even a problem, I can deal with them quick but after that he comes closer and that's the end of the run.
Am I missing something or what the hell is happening?

[Tax evasion]

The joy of fighting paladins.
What level are you ? What build ? equipment ? etc. etc.

[JC]

Originally posted by Tax evasion:

The joy of fighting paladins.
What level are you ? What build ? equipment ? etc. etc.

Level 8, Paladin oathbreaker.
Rogue/ranger.
Wizzard.
And whatever Laezel originally is.
Considering I vacuum clean everything the gear should be good enough.

[lordmilier]

What level are you? stats? gear in general? are you talking about the fight as him or as the avatar? Not sure I have ever had issues fighting him, You did mention Laezel here you should be around 22 + AC if you gave her the adamantine armor + cloak and ring with AC. You did kill/free the Nightsong before fighting him right? running on the rooftop is a no go unless you have.

[Tax evasion]

Considering I vacuum clean everything the gear should be good enough.

Well, this is your first big boss fight, so it's a nice stress test of your party composition.
You're mentioning being "tanky", but give no AC info. HP is not a reliable measure.

But my question is : why are you even allowing Ketheric to get into melee ? You should be able to kite him quite well with Wizard + Ranger.

Did you free Aylin ? She usually tanks him like a boss.

[Gaius]

I use summons in this fight. He is easy enough, you juest need him to waste 1 or 2 turns without downing yout characters.

[DeMasked]

Act 2 Potion of Necrotic Resistance is super useful for damage mitigation + you can potentially throw 1 onto all your party.

If you are going Honour or Tactician I'd suggest Alert Feat so you can have your entire party start the fight which can result in a huge advantage.

For Ketheric I'd suggest looking at his stats to find out his weakness and use spells, crowd control, poisons, etc... to better control him.

[lordmilier]

Originally posted by DeMasked:

Act 2 Potion of Necrotic Resistance is super useful for damage mitigation + you can potentially throw 1 onto all your party.

If you are going Honour or Tactician I'd suggest Alert Feat so you can have your entire party start the fight which can result in a huge advantage.

For Ketheric I'd suggest looking at his stats to find out his weakness and use spells, crowd control, poisons, etc... to better control him.

You do not need the alert feat in act 1 or 2 for most if not your whole party to go first alert is not a good pick before act 3 and then only some bosses would be were it has any real use on.

Not to mention if this is his non avatar fight he deals raidiant damage not necro damage you also get resistance to necro damage in the gauntlet of Sha wasting a elixir buff on this is not needed.

[DeMasked]

Originally posted by lordmilier:

Originally posted by DeMasked:

Act 2 Potion of Necrotic Resistance is super useful for damage mitigation + you can potentially throw 1 onto all your party.

If you are going Honour or Tactician I'd suggest Alert Feat so you can have your entire party start the fight which can result in a huge advantage.

For Ketheric I'd suggest looking at his stats to find out his weakness and use spells, crowd control, poisons, etc... to better control him.

You do not need the alert feat in act 1 or 2 for most if not your whole party to go first alert is not a good pick before act 3 and then only some bosses would be were it has any real use on.

Not to mention if this is his non avatar fight he deals raidiant damage not necro damage you also get resistance to necro damage in the gauntlet of Sha wasting a elixir buff on this is not needed.

Alert is extremely useful for Honour mode. I only mention Tactician because you do have some tough fights where starting first can easily give you a large advantage. Killing the Inquisitor boss in the Creche before he even gets a turn is just 1 example.

His first fight is radiant damage but his legendary ability to focus all minions into attacking 1 person can result in a lot of necrotic damage. Gauntlet of Shar buff is until long rest so it isn't guaranteed that the player might still have that buff.

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by JC:

First fight with him and I am just being obliterated by his attacks. He does 70+ damage with one attack and just oneshots my main char and Laezel who are supposed to be somewhat tanky.
I am just so lost with what am I supposed to do there.
Adds aren't even a problem, I can deal with them quick but after that he comes closer and that's the end of the run.
Am I missing something or what the hell is happening?

Yeah, PLDs are infamous for their nova damage. His ability to function as a PLD on top of having a Myrkulite and a pack of undead (who are enhanced with AoA on higher difficulties) make him incredibly dangerous to an unprepared party since his melee attacks can average roughly 44 damage in a single blow, capping at 69 provided he smites on top of a smite. And can do so twice.

Thankfully, Ketheric's pretty manageable. He's largely a melee-oriented unit with the sole exception of a few PLD spells and his Incubate Death ability. (He also has an LA in Honor that's 4d12 but it doesn't change much), so playing at mid to long range or utilizing CC effects to stop movement will pretty much neuter him.

If you have a caster in your group, a pro-tip is to Misty Step them onto the bannisters overhanging the central area and have them take potshots at whatever's moving for this exact reason.

Finally, if Aylin isn't around, you're gonna need someone who can resist Radiant to step up and facetank him. His +9 attack bonus means he hits AC 20 at a 50% rate and is high enough that - unless you have a Swords BRD who can facetank paired with a CLC who can reliably debuff him with Radiant Orb - AC-tanking him is largely not recommended. A Bear Totem BRB is likely your best bet, since they should have 111 HP and resist all but Psychic (which is only a d4 and only from Ketheric's Hammer), meaning that 44-69 goes quickly down to 23-36 per hit which a BRB with Superior Healing Potions can easily outpace.

Now, if Aylin is a part of the fight, then don't even bother bringing a tank-style unit and just focus fully on DPS. She's gonna be able to buy you all the time you need to debilitate Keth & his goons with a Hypercarry team (TB-Thrower Karlach, Buffer Minthara, Reverb or Radiant Orb support, CC Tav).

[lordmilier]

Originally posted by DeMasked:

Originally posted by lordmilier:

You do not need the alert feat in act 1 or 2 for most if not your whole party to go first alert is not a good pick before act 3 and then only some bosses would be were it has any real use on.

Not to mention if this is his non avatar fight he deals raidiant damage not necro damage you also get resistance to necro damage in the gauntlet of Sha wasting a elixir buff on this is not needed.

Alert is extremely useful for Honour mode. I only mention Tactician because you do have some tough fights where starting first can easily give you a large advantage. Killing the Inquisitor boss in the Creche before he even gets a turn is just 1 example.

His first fight is radiant damage but his legendary ability to focus all minions into attacking 1 person can result in a lot of necrotic damage. Gauntlet of Shar buff is until long rest so it isn't guaranteed that the player might still have that buff.

Setting dex to 16 and spreading initiative gear between your party in acts 1 and 2 will let you go first in most cases. A huge reason act 3 alert will be good is because bosses either have ungodly amounts of dex or they have alert some bosses have both alert and high amounts of dex and alert.

Go look for yourself here https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Category:Bosses only 4 bosses come with Alert prio to act 3 Kar´niss, Ethel,Bernad and Gerringothe Thorm. Mind you 1 of them is hardly a fight since you can ambush Kar´niss after you defend Last light inn or talk him to death which is funny AF. All other bosses you can beat with 16 dex and 1 initiative item most of them in fact are beaten by you having 16 dex.

[JC]

Good news everyone!
I followed the advices and just cc'ed Keth while throwing only ranged stuff at him.
Couldn't have been easier than that.
Many thanks for the help people!

[Fluffykeith]

First I'm Ketheric
Wipe your party so effortless
At your level I'm a mega prick
You'all better learn who you're messing with
Better
Call
Me
Mr Thorm
THIS AIN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM!
Piss me off I might transform
Make you wish you were never born
An apostle of Myrkul
Better not step up in my circle
Better not be bringing up my daugher
That's a garauntee you're getting slaughtered
That's a garauntee you're getting F**ked up
Tell all the other Chosen what's what
I'm the only one who aint a Nut Nut
And I'll be the first to kick your Butt Butt
Putz

("The Chosen" (Baldur's Gate 3 Villains Rap) - Space Bards)