Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Ace-Educator Feb 27, 2024 @ 8:14am
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Dark Urge and Gale... why devs?
One of the first choices you can RP as the urge is to FANTASIZE about biting Gale's hand.... and guess what? You lose him forever as a companion. A full on companion gone, because the game tricked me.

For how long this game was cooking in the oven, NO ONE told the devs that having this as a landmine was a stupid choice? I just assumed he'd show up to my camp later without a hand and have some words, but no, devs decided to screw this origin over.

No matter how "good" a dev is, they still and always will make astronomically dumb decisions.
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Patrick Feb 27, 2024 @ 9:16am 
I didn't play Durge, but if one had not seen all the press (quite possible), why would you believe that chowing on Gales's hand (rather than sticking a knife in his heart, say) would lead to his immediate death, rather than just losing said hand? Unless the game narrator says "If you give in to your desires, HE WILL DIE!". Does the narrator say that? I don't know. For something so important, it really should be 100% clear that you are sentencing him to death.
Draknalor Feb 27, 2024 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by Hornet:
One of the first choices you can RP as the urge is to FANTASIZE about biting Gale's hand.... and guess what? You lose him forever as a companion. A full on companion gone, because the game tricked me.

For how long this game was cooking in the oven, NO ONE told the devs that having this as a landmine was a stupid choice? I just assumed he'd show up to my camp later without a hand and have some words, but no, devs decided to screw this origin over.

No matter how "good" a dev is, they still and always will make astronomically dumb decisions.
All Darke urge dialogue options mean you actually do the thing when the game fades to black.
Hawt Feb 27, 2024 @ 9:54am 
OP, sounds like Dark Urge is not your play style and you should just play a Tav instead. I've done 2 Dark Urge runs, a good run and an evil run.
BG3 is a game of actual choices. Unlike most games where choice is meaningless, it does actually affect things in this game. You should actually pay attention to what is happening in the game, what each character is, instead of blindly running forward. Because you're likely going to hit a lot of insta-game over scenarios otherwise. And it's not a dev problem. This game didn't win GoTY, all those awards, sold like hotcakes, because the devs didn't understand what they were doing.
GriffinPilgrim Feb 27, 2024 @ 9:58am 
The whole point of the Dark Urge is that you're not in full control of your actions. Indulging the Urge, even in your mind, gives it power.
Ellie Feb 27, 2024 @ 10:08am 
Works as it should; actions have consequences, often unintended ones.
Last edited by Ellie; Feb 27, 2024 @ 10:09am
RhiTheWitch Feb 27, 2024 @ 10:25am 
Originally posted by Patrick:
I didn't play Durge, but if one had not seen all the press (quite possible), why would you believe that chowing on Gales's hand (rather than sticking a knife in his heart, say) would lead to his immediate death, rather than just losing said hand? Unless the game narrator says "If you give in to your desires, HE WILL DIE!". Does the narrator say that? I don't know. For something so important, it really should be 100% clear that you are sentencing him to death.
That's missing the whole nature and point of Durge. He is not a custom character, Dark Urge is a canon backstory, there are limits to what you can control. If that bothers players, Dark Urge is not for them. Not hating, its just not going to be the game you're looking for if you expect that
EricHVela Feb 27, 2024 @ 10:50am 
Now you know that, when you let D'urge fantasize or delve into memories, you're setting it free.

The amnesiac didn't know that would happen. So, it makes sense that the story is not about to warn the player, either.
Wolfherz Feb 27, 2024 @ 11:07am 
Posts like this happen when you don't have an understanding as to what the Dark Urge even is. From their creation, to them being betrayed, to them making a comeback OP has no apparent clue.
HouseOfTheRat Feb 27, 2024 @ 11:11am 
Durge/Gale is 100% a missed opportunity, especially seeing as you get to keep the hand. I fully expected something interesting to happen along the way, but no. How about meeting a maimed, angry, and corrupted Gale later in the game, either as a party member or as an enemy.
アンジェル Feb 27, 2024 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by 2024:
Durge/Gale is 100% a missed opportunity, especially seeing as you get to keep the hand. I fully expected something interesting to happen along the way, but no. How about meeting a maimed, angry, and corrupted Gale later in the game, either as a party member or as an enemy.

You can use the hand to meet the tribunal in Act 3, though.
★REM★ Feb 27, 2024 @ 11:17am 
So you cut off his hand and you expect he does not die bleeding out? that's your fault not devs. I'm glad i can kill him so soon, Gale is a very hateful ugly companion.
Last edited by ★REM★; Feb 27, 2024 @ 11:18am
アンジェル Feb 27, 2024 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by ★REM★:
So you cut off his hand and you expect he does not die bleeding out? that's your fault not devs. I'm glad i can kill him so soon, Gale is a very hateful ugly companion.

Have you seen his abs?
Pyromaiden Feb 27, 2024 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by ★REM★:
So you cut off his hand and you expect he does not die bleeding out? that's your fault not devs. I'm glad i can kill him so soon, Gale is a very hateful ugly companion.
"hateful"

the man struggles to actually say anything rude to you even when you blatantly deserve it by being a callous psychopath
Zsrai Feb 27, 2024 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Patrick:
I didn't play Durge, but if one had not seen all the press (quite possible), why would you believe that chowing on Gales's hand (rather than sticking a knife in his heart, say) would lead to his immediate death, rather than just losing said hand? Unless the game narrator says "If you give in to your desires, HE WILL DIE!". Does the narrator say that? I don't know. For something so important, it really should be 100% clear that you are sentencing him to death.

Or, you know, you can just reload a save if you don't like a consequence? You don't need your hand held for narrative purposes when you can just roll back to choose something else if you didn't like your first choice.

Originally posted by 2024:
Durge/Gale is 100% a missed opportunity, especially seeing as you get to keep the hand. I fully expected something interesting to happen along the way, but no. How about meeting a maimed, angry, and corrupted Gale later in the game, either as a party member or as an enemy.

How would he get out of the portal he's stuck in when the only limb he stuck out was brutally cut off? If he doesn't bleed out, he's gonna blow up.
anachoret Feb 27, 2024 @ 11:43am 
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that random forum posters do not in fact usually know what is or isn't better writing than professional writers.
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