Baldur's Gate 3

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Cope 4 me May 15, 2024 @ 11:32am
Larian are funded by blackrock and controlled by sweet baby inc
sweet baby inc is the baby (pun intended) of blackrock, that helps video games have a certain ideology and turn them socially presentable for "modern audience" that doesn't even make for 2% of the world yet control 90% of it.

You support communists. They want you dead, they don't care about you. You are all robots, drones.
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Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Originally posted by Orion Invictus:
How do you think questions work?
Is he still dodging the question?

If dodging = answering then yes. Which about sums up your interpretation of reality. Oh and answering others because you don't have the courage to speak directly is also telling.
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Quillithe May 16, 2024 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Originally posted by Orion Invictus:
How do you think questions work?
Is he still dodging the question?
Definitely a rogue with Uncanny Dodge
Originally posted by Quillithe:
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Is he still dodging the question?
Definitely a rogue with Uncanny Dodge

Please.... please get out and see daylight.
Moonlight Knight May 16, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by Vixzian:
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
Is he still dodging the question?

If dodging = answering then yes. Which about sums up your interpretation of reality. Oh and answering others because you don't have the courage to speak directly is also telling.
Well if I answered you directly you'd just give me ♥♥♥♥ for not following through on what I said I'd do, right?

You totally wouldn't try to bait me into talking to you directly and then give me ♥♥♥♥ for answering, right?
Quillithe May 16, 2024 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by Vixzian:
Originally posted by Quillithe:
Definitely a rogue with Uncanny Dodge

Please.... please get out and see daylight.
A level 3 spell? I don't know anyone that magically powerful, even if I weren't a vampire.
Dork_Stalker_310 (Banned) May 16, 2024 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by Vixzian:
You can't be asking me my own take because I never gave one
JEEE, MAYBE THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Originally posted by Vixzian:

There have been thread, after thread, after thread of people discussing said characteristics particular to this game. So either you are asking me to reiterate them or you are asking my personal take on what those my be. You can't be asking me my own take because I never gave one my point as always been that other people have a valid point in opposition to those who want to act as if there is nothing to criticize there. There is. And it is valid.
Yeah, exactly, multiple threads! And believe it or not, overwhelming majority of them were either flame baits or low-IQ reactionary drivel with no real arguments outside of "it's cringe and garbage" (not an argument in itself) or, when poster was somewhat smarter, "it takes me away from the story" (is it really all it takes to ruin a story for some?).
If that's what you mean by controversial elements, then all I can do is laugh, because these "controversies" aren't worth a dime.

Originally posted by Vixzian:
The idea that change is always good is along the same lines as any victim should be believed at face value. No, nothing is above scrutiny and should be taken at face value. All things must pass the test of validity to determine the value of what these things assert themselves as.
Being a contrarian for the sake of it isn't a thing of profoundness. Obviously, everything should be examined and doubted. It doesn't mean that you need to simply gobble up everything some populist say in an attempt to "dismantle the narrative". You should analyze things and think for yourself.

Let's have an example and follow my logic here. Dwarfs aren't traditionally depicted as dark skinned, yet this game has quite a few of them. Does this detract me from the story - as in, is existence of black dwarfs something outlandish and unreasonable? No, if there are duergar , than there can be black dwarfs as well. Does this hurt my experience or emotions in any way? Absolutely not. Can it be cool for some black kid to see a fantasy race that resembles his? I guess so, yes.
Ergo, in this example, racial diversity brings no downsides and some potential upsides.
I apply this logic to other "controversial" elements of these game, as well as other games - and not only games. This is why I asked what elements do you don't like, and why. I got my answer now, so I'm not really impressed.
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Orion Invictus May 16, 2024 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:
Originally posted by Vixzian:
You can't be asking me my own take because I never gave one
JEEE, MAYBE THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK IN THE FIRST PLACE!
I asked him how he thinks questions work, but he just dodged the question. So I guess that answers that.
Quillithe May 16, 2024 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by Orion Invictus:
Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:
JEEE, MAYBE THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK IN THE FIRST PLACE!
I asked him how he thinks questions work, but he just dodged the question. So I guess that answers that.
I honestly suspect people online may not know how questions work.

I've been accused of making strawman arguments for asking questions about people's opinions. Which is the exact opposite of how questions work.

I think the assumption is that you must assume other people's beliefs so every question is not to get an answer but rather to get sweet validation by 'pwning' the other party in an argument or something. Actually trying to understand them and communicate is a foreign concept to some people online.
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Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

JEEE, MAYBE THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Let me help you ask a simple question. "Vixzian, what is your personal take on what things in BG3 you see as problematic with regard to characteristics that could be seen as pandering?"

Now to that question I'm going to answer the same way I just did previously. I don't have a particular take in this sense being that I have a better understanding of D&D, Forgotten Realms, and how societal diversity works in regions such as that of the city of Baldur's Gate, however, I understand those that criticize the game for the repetitive things they are seeing in games now that point to a pattern. I do agree that a pattern exists.

As opposed to your poorly formed question "What are your examples of said characteristics - or their implementations - and how do you think they detract from "everything else"? - My examples of what other people said? My own personal examples which I just explained previously that I didn't provide a particular take?, and then did answer as to how those things detract from what's important....


Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:
Yeah, exactly, multiple threads! And believe it or not, overwhelming majority of them were either flame baits or low-IQ reactionary drivel with no real arguments outside of "it's cringe and garbage" (not an argument in itself) or, when poster was somewhat smarter, "it takes me away from the story" (is it really all it takes to ruin a story for some?).
If that's what you mean by controversial elements, then all I can do is laugh, because these "controversies" aren't worth a dime.

The majority of all of this is flame baits and low-IQ drivel. Which is why reading comprehension is an important skill as is critical thinking. What one shouldn't do is assume that everything as a result of the majority of posts gets to overshadow that which is not. In fact this very premise is something you should be on board with given your arguments. Either you take the time to read what does matter and give it the weight it deserves or don't assume anything.

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:
Being a contrarian for the sake of it isn't a thing of profoundness. Obviously, everything should be examined and doubted. It doesn't mean that you need to simply gobble up everything some populist say in an attempt to "dismantle the narrative". You should analyze things and think for yourself.

This amounts to you making baseless assumptions again. Projection. I don't need the advice about how to analyze or think because that's how I live my life. Perhaps you should take the advice instead? I say that only because it is you making the assertion that someone is taking things at face value which I can only imagine to be you because I certainly do not.

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:
Let's have an example and follow my logic here. Dwarfs aren't traditionally depicted as dark skinned, yet this game has quite a few of them. Does this detract me from the story - as in, is existence of black dwarfs something outlandish and unreasonable? No, if there are duergar , than there can be black dwarfs as well. Does this hurt my experience or emotions in any way? Absolutely not. Can it be cool for some black kid to see a fantasy race that resembles his? I guess so, yes.
Ergo, in this example, racial diversity brings no downsides and some potential upsides.
I apply this logic to other "controversial" elements of these game, as well as other games - and not only games. This is why I asked what elements do you don't like, and why. I got my answer now, so I'm not really impressed.

Again this is an absurd example. Who said black dwarves was outlandish or unreasonable? It's certainly a valid argument for those who understand the geography of FR and said dwarves were found outside of the cultural boundaries that exist within the lore if not for a valid reason but your question seems silly.

Let me help you with what you seem to be missing. If a story is about the Dwarven land of Delzoun which was inhabited by shield dwarves known to fit a particular description and focused on a particular period of that age, few people are going to be upset at a gold dwarf or more mentioned in happenstance as a back drop to the story no one is going to make mention or if they do it will be an ignorant minority. However, if said gold Dwarves become the focus of the story in a setting for shield dwarves in a story about shield dwarven history...now there's an issue particularly if the fact that they are brown skinned gold dwarves is what the story focuses on or highlights.

I'm not here to impress you so your comment was unnecessary.
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Dork_Stalker_310 (Banned) May 16, 2024 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by Vixzian:
Let me help you ask a simple question. "Vixzian, what is your personal take on what things in BG3 you see as problematic with regard to characteristics that could be seen as pandering?"

Now to that question I'm going to answer the same way I just did previously. I don't have a particular take in this sense being that I have a better understanding of D&D, Forgotten Realms, and how societal diversity works in regions such as that of the city of Baldur's Gate, however, I understand those that criticize the game for the repetitive things they are seeing in games now that point to a pattern. I do agree that a pattern exists.
>Now to that question I'm going to answer the same way I just did previously.
>I don't have a particular take
The memes write themselves.
Originally posted by Vixzian:
As opposed to your poorly formed question "What are your examples of said characteristics - or their implementations - and how do you think they detract from "everything else"? - My examples of what other people said? My own personal examples which I just explained previously that I didn't provide a particular take?, and then did answer as to how those things detract from what's important....
You know, I'm beginning to think that you are doing it on purpose.
How the hell can you interpret "What are your examples of X?" as anything, other than something that you consider example of X? If you weren't sure what X is, then why even bring it up?
Originally posted by Vixzian:
The majority of all of this is flame baits and low-IQ drivel. Which is why reading comprehension is an important skill as is critical thinking. What one shouldn't do is assume that everything as a result of the majority of posts gets to overshadow that which is not. In fact this very premise is something you should be on board with given your arguments. Either you take the time to read what does matter and give it the weight it deserves or don't assume anything.
You know, for someone who is all about pattern recognition, you somehow are very defensive when talking about people who showcase a certain pattern of having no meaningful arguments in support of their position, as long as this position is "anti-woke".
Originally posted by Vixzian:
Again this is an absurd example. Who said black dwarves was outlandish or unreasonable?
Some people actually did argue that, to the point where they made mods to remove them. Google is your friend, so on and so forth.
Originally posted by Vixzian:
However, if said gold Dwarves become the focus of the story in a setting for shield dwarves in a story about shield dwarven history...now there's an issue particularly if the fact that they are brown skinned gold dwarves is what the story focuses on or highlights.
I have to admit, I have no idea how to read this sentence.
Originally posted by Vixzian:
I'm not here to impress you so your comment was unnecessary.
No, I'm pretty sure you are here to play defense for any fool who screeches about how commies try to ruin entertainment with chemicals in the water. At least, that’s the behavioral pattern I’ve seen so far.
Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:
>Now to that question I'm going to answer the same way I just did previously.
>I don't have a particular take
The memes write themselves.

So memes is what this is really about for you. Got it.

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:
You know, I'm beginning to think that you are doing it on purpose.
How the hell can you interpret "What are your examples of X?" as anything, other than something that you consider example of X? If you weren't sure what X is, then why even bring it up?

How? By being intelligent and understanding how to comprehend. Most people simply state what they want to know in a way that doesn't create confusion. The very idea you think everyone else is at fault for your inability speaks volumes.

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:
You know, for someone who is all about pattern recognition, you somehow are very defensive when talking about people who showcase a certain pattern of having no meaningful arguments in support of their position, as long as this position is "anti-woke".

So now you're determining defensiveness in a text conversation. On top of that you want to double down on the fact that despite plenty of people making valid arguments... and it's you talking about sides here... it doesn't matter and should be ignored if it doesn't align with your position.

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:
Some people actually did argue that, to the point where they made mods to remove them. Google is your friend, so on and so forth.


As I acknowleged was possible but certainly doesn't represent the majority particularly those that went at length to explain why they felt there was an issue.

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:
No, I'm pretty sure you are here to play defense for any fool who screeches about how commies try to ruin entertainment with chemicals in the water. At least, that’s the behavioral pattern I’ve seen so far.

So again your projection and you waving your hand at the fact that I'm arguing against your position. Not to mention completely ignoring the paragraph that speaks specifically to an example you gave to explain how it can create an issue...lol because you couldn't comprehend it....

But as always you and the like have to resort to name calling, insults, and labeling when you've lost the ability to debate.
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acSiegemaster May 16, 2024 @ 1:25pm 
>blackrock mentioned

Time to load up on even more blackrock etfs!
Originally posted by acSiegemaster:
>blackrock mentioned

Time to load up on even more blackrock etfs!

lol why not blackrock shares? Oh... right.
Quillithe May 16, 2024 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by acSiegemaster:
>blackrock mentioned

Time to load up on even more blackrock etfs!
I'm just sad nobody reacted to my comment about Rudyom's wand.

Am I so out of touch? No. It's the children who are wrong.
Vox Maximus May 16, 2024 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by larhtas:
@Marik, I guess there isn't any artificial injection of ideology in BG3 since you couldn't specify any and avoided answering.

My only question is: why are you feeding the very obvious troll?
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