fighter with a bow > ranger

[Fon]

Change my mind

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Gloomstalker ranger 8/Assassin rogue 4 > fighter :P

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Ranger gets:
- spells like Misty Step;
- better proficency bonuses like Sleight of Hand;
- consistent damage boosts for Hunter or Dread Ambusher abilities for Gloom Stalker;
- on level 11, Gloom Stalker can try again in case they missed the target;
- has default AoE attacks on level 11 for Hunter;
- can summon bears.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Originally posted by 1337_h4x0r_xXx_deathlord666_xXx:

Gloomstalker ranger 8/Assassin rogue 4 > fighter :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXyYhV9J6mE

[Hobocop]

Battlemaster Fighters are incredibly potent archers, but hard to say that they're categorically better than a Ranger overall. More sidegrades of each other than anything else.

[FunkyMonkey]

All Ranger's get spells and are better with skills. That makes a difference. Is it better than Action surge and three attacks at lvl 11? Depends on what you want.

[Kappa]

Ranger hunter has multiattack and then AoE ( respectively 4x and up to 10x, more or less depends the nr of enemies, each attack ).

I'll never get a fighter for a ranged character since I find it too useful ( though a pure fighter or a hybrid fighter/rogue would deal a lot more single target damage compared to a ranger, but I wouldn't care ).

[Fon]

Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:

All Ranger's get spells and are better with skills. That makes a difference. Is it better than Action surge and three attacks at lvl 11? Depends on what you want.

Its more about the lvl 6 and doing damage to solo a boss, a fighter can do it better, dont get me wrong i play dnd and i play alot of ranger gloomstalker,
On dnd u feel more about this powergap, here the ranger is better atleast then the rolepaying game

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:

All Ranger's get spells and are better with skills. That makes a difference. Is it better than Action surge and three attacks at lvl 11? Depends on what you want.

I mean...2 attacks with advantage + sneak attack + hunters mark + dread ambusher for gloomstalker ranger/assassin rogue on turn one, and you are pretty much guaranteed to go first....

[Gob]

Sword bard archer > Ranger

Cos of Slashing Flourish (Ranged) that let's you attack two enemies at once or one enemy twice per action.

[seeker1]

Arcane Archer > all. And BTW there's two different mods depending on whether you make a Fighter Arcane Archer or Ranger Arcane Archer.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

If all you want to be is an archer, then yes, although Gloomstalker/Assassin is prolly still the best combo.

[Metallicus]

When you hit level 12 respec to Fighter-Battlemaster 6, Gloomstalker 3 and Assassin 3. You still get two feats and you are better than any other archer build.

[Chadwick Strongpants]

Beastmaster Ranger:
- gets 5 pets that can tank and DPS, which get stronger (and more dapper) as they level
- essentially adds a 5th permanent party member
- lots of versatility with their pets, at least one of them is almost guaranteed to fit your party dynamic
- pets can provide a lot of utility and have their own seperate skills, adding great synergy
- kids in the world will comment on them which I really like

[TrueWarlord真の武]

Fighters are better at "RAW" combat, while Rangers have more utility outside combat. That said, Rangers are very good and viable.

[harlequin_corps]

ah.. you can't really. Ranger may be able to frontload with ambush, but fighter can frontload with power surge. Ranger's though, higher initiative, higher sleight of hand plus access to a nice 6 meter AOE CC/damage.