RIP Dragon Age - at least Larian is still doing CRPGs

[seeker1]

Well, I watched the gameplay reveal trailer for DA 4 this morning.

I'll say this: Minrathous is visually beautiful. The environments in the game definitely look amazing. There seem to be a lot of character customization options for Rook.

But other than pre-scripted banter, all they have is a very minimal dialogue wheel.

And that "ability wheel"? What is that monstrosity?

This is a party based game? During combat, all you see is Rook. I assume the other party members are doing something. But they're not even onscreen.

Pride demons now look like neon lit Ethereals.

All these barrel rolls all over the place. This isn't Dragon Age anymore -- it's Elden Age. Or maybe Mass Effect: Fantasy.

I was afraid things were heading this way after Inquisition. Sure wish I wasn't right.

At least Larian is still gonna keep making actual CRPGs.

[Metallicus]

Dragon Age has always been an ARPG not a CRPG, but yes, the game looks like ♥♥♥♥. Also, I don’t like that they took away player agency by forcing you to play Rook (they did the same thing with DA2). Sure, it’s customizable, but it doesn’t feel like my choices.

[Elazul]

The new DA is really disappointing. Looks fake and plastic, the colors are too bright and over saturated, it's full action combat, and the dialogue is over simplified. If Larian is cooking a Michelin Star 4 course meal then BioWare microwaved up a Hungry Man frozen dinner.

I think BG3 has ruined other RPGs for me. I'll always compare this game to anything new.

[♂Warrior of Gachi♂]

Originally posted by Metallicus:

Dragon Age has always been an ARPG not a CRPG, but yes, the game looks like ♥♥♥♥. Also, I don’t like that they took away player agency by forcing you to play Rook (they did the same thing with DA2). Sure, it’s customizable, but it doesn’t feel like my choices.

Dragon Age Origins was not an action game. It was a 3d infinity engine style game with a different default point of view.

[Elazul]

Originally posted by ♂PUDGUS♂:

Originally posted by Metallicus:

Dragon Age has always been an ARPG not a CRPG, but yes, the game looks like ♥♥♥♥. Also, I don’t like that they took away player agency by forcing you to play Rook (they did the same thing with DA2). Sure, it’s customizable, but it doesn’t feel like my choices.

Dragon Age Origins was not an action game. It was a 3d infinity engine style game with a different default point of view.

DA:O was real time with pause and was considered the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate 2 at the time.

[Anna]

Yes, after watching the gameplay reveal I thought I should appreciate Larian more...
But then I realized I already appreciate Larian on maximum level possible :D

[Zero McDol]

Fine by me. I'll buy it, if it's interesting. I'll of course, need to see the actual world, systems, interactables and not the usual intro quest.

If it's just another story game with limited interaction and lack of sand, then I'm not going to bother.

edit:
Yes, I like story in my story games, but I also like sand.

[Chadwick Strongpants]

Meh, I'll reserve judgment for until after I've tried it. Even if the graphics are... modernized, for lack of a better word, the gameplay and story may still be good.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

I think people are overreacting here.

Sure, it's not like Origins - but none of the sequels were like it, neither in terms of gameplay, nor style.
It seems like they went full A-RPG this time - but that's not a new development in Bioware history either, they've wanted to go full-action since Jade Empire and even KotOR was a lot more action-packed than their previous games.
From what was shown, there isn't any Marvel-tier quips in the midst of battle like in Andromeda, companions seem fine and likable, world seems beautiful. If this game won't have MMO-tier collectathons, than it might be a decent experience overall.

After a pretty bland trailer, the presentation looks fairly decent. So, I'll be cautiously optimistic and wait till release.

[Hobocop]

The gameplay demo reminded me of the melee suit from Anthem. Not a bad thing, since the core nuggets of gameplay was one of the few things Anthem had going for it. Shame everything else around that core was rotten, and remains to be seen if Veilguard can follow through, since the footage seemed to be the prologue.

And it's also not necessarily what I'd like from a Dragon Age title. I tapped out of Inquisition really hard and never went back.

[Maraxus]

It's nice to see Kratos out and about on another adventure. :D

[IRMcG]

It's pretty much the same as DA2 and (more so) Inquisition's equivalent intro levels other than using Mass Effect style party control, and we don't know how the wider character/party/base building and campaign system works.

I prefer turn-based to this action style combat tbh, but at least they've gone all in and made it fairly smooth instead of the half tactical thing the previous two games used.

Happy enough with what I saw to probably buy it, but I'd really like to see more on the game systems to be sure.

[Frenker]

Yep gameplay video is already over 50% dislikes and it was only like few hours ago.

NO player agency.... Lack of detail and options just arcade gameplay without strong direction.
To top it off, little substance and character - charisma due to lack of details!

Like i keep saying rpgs have no standards nowaday.

No wonder BG 3 is doing so well a good rpg like BG 3 will stands out really well compared to this kind of stuff hehe


RIP Bioware.

[Jarsonne]

Any link not forcing connect to a youtube account?

i had find one for the companions trailer but failed find it back or find it for the gameplay trailer.

Damit I saw the site name and can't remind it.

EDIT:
Ok dailymotion it seems.

[Maraxus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkeBx8vV6PU

Finally a true next gen rpg!

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

I mean...why are people surprised by Bioware always going more and more in the direction of action?
BG1 was a classic rpg that tried to appeal to the action crowd. That was the whole point of going RTwP over TB. This is just the natural evolution of that development....and you see it all over their games history...It's not a recent Bioware thing at all...
Same thing happene throughout the Mass effect series...me1 was way closer to kotors pseudo-rtwp....me2 was somewhere in between, me3 was way more action oriented etc....
Same thing that's happening with BGS....you can see the same development there, only that BGS never pretended to make anything but action rpgs....then people complained about the feel of their combat system not living up to shooters, so BGS went more and more in the direction of shooters and now we got starfield....maybe people should have complained way, way more about the missing RPG systems in either of the earlier games....
And that is the great thing about Larian. they did compromise relatively little on that front and still made a game that sold huge....