Only D&D approved mods?

[Nico]

What will this mean? Usually mods are for giving players freedom to create anything, even stuff that's not related to the game's universe/aesthetic.

If all the mods in the BG3 mod.io have to be approved by someone from Larian and/or WotC it sounds really lame tbh

I know there's some really creepy stuff already posted on Nexus and I don't approve it, but I hope they have some leniency with mod.io and are not mega strict about it.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Първоначално публикувано от FRISH:

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Again, might be, I haven't seen that and I haven't done that.
So keep me out of the "you all" pls, thank you very much.
That's what I meant with you arguing against your assumptions of myself.
I have argued against websites hosting other peoples work against their will, against trolls using controversial mods to stir up ♥♥♥♥. Against people posting obvious homophobic slurs in thei descriptions and/or comment sections of their mods etc.
Ihave no political or religious affiliation. the only groups I am a part of is my ADHD support group and my D&D TTRPG group.

[FRISH]

Първоначално публикувано от Dork_Stalker_310:

Първоначално публикувано от FRISH:

The more you all push, the more people are going to push back. Right now it is beneficial to pretend to be a good person for social status whilst bringing others down, but that won't be forever. So do you want an inclusive space, or do you want people to learn to never make the same mistake again. Because I know which message I've learned.

You know, for someone who is supposedly advocating for more accepting and free discourse, you sure love making vague threats.
"You will find out that people won't take abuse forever", "So do you want an inclusive space, or do you want people to learn to never make the same mistake again" and so on. Sounds a lot like a blackmail to me.

If you think it was a threat, that just shows what you would do.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Първоначално публикувано от FRISH:

Първоначално публикувано от Dork_Stalker_310:

You know, for someone who is supposedly advocating for more accepting and free discourse, you sure love making vague threats.
"You will find out that people won't take abuse forever", "So do you want an inclusive space, or do you want people to learn to never make the same mistake again" and so on. Sounds a lot like a blackmail to me.

If you think it was a threat, that just shows what you would do.

At least own it.

[FRISH]

Първоначално публикувано от Dork_Stalker_310:

Първоначално публикувано от FRISH:

If you think it was a threat, that just shows what you would do.

At least own it.

Own what? I'm much more likely to take my own life than harm another person. Claiming that actions have consequences is not a threat, because believe it or not, not everyone will be coming to you, talking about problems they see, especially if you try to exclude them. You have no idea the culture you're creating.

I'm also wondering why all of the people wanting to keep on topic are keeping at it...

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Първоначално публикувано от FRISH:

Claiming that actions have consequences is not a threat, because believe it or not, not everyone will be coming to you, talking about problems they see, especially if you try to exclude them. You have no idea the culture you're creating.

You are doing it again.

"excluding them" - so, back on the topic of mods. I took a look at this BasedMods website, and outside of actual based mods like "Top heavy Tifa", we have:
-"Metal Gear Solid 3/Swastika Bandana";
- "DOOM II/Christchurch Wad (recreates Chrischurch attack)";
- "DOOM II/Columbine";
- "Rimworld/Basedworld - Races and Racism (you now can do racism in Rimworld)".
and so on.

I'm not saying that this website shouldn't exist or anything, but do you think that there are maybe other reasons why some people dislike it, outside of "it just hosts things that are anti-woke"? Or is it just a general type of edgelords that most people would find cringe and wouldn't want to associate with?

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Първоначално публикувано от Dork_Stalker_310:

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Furthermore, this was one of the sites supporting modtheft, and hiding it behind supposedly anonymity protection.
Dunno if that's still the case, or if they finally took down those mods and stopped redistributing other peoples creative work without their consent, which was my main criticism against that site.
I might not agree with those mods, but I don't care...I don't have to use them or their website, but redistributing mods against their creators will is actively hurting the modding community.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Първоначално публикувано от 1337_h4x0r_xXx_deathlord666_xXx:

Първоначално публикувано от Dork_Stalker_310:

You are doing it again.

"excluding them" - so, back on the topic of mods. I took a look at this BasedMods website, and outside of actual based mods like "Top heavy Tifa", we have:
-"Metal Gear Solid 3/Swastika Bandana";
- "DOOM II/Christchurch Wad (recreates Chrischurch attack)";
- "DOOM II/Columbine";
- "Rimworld/Basedworld - Races and Racism (you now can do racism in Rimworld)".
and so on.

I'm not saying that this website shouldn't exist or anything, but do you think that there maybe other reasons why some people dislike it, outside of "it just hosts things that are anti-woke"?

Furthermore, this was one of the sites supporting modtheft, and hiding it behind supposedly anonymity protection.
Dunno if that's still the case, or if they finally took down those mods and stopped redistributing other peoples creative work without their consent, which was my main criticism against that site.
I might not agree with those mods, but I don't care...I don't have to use them or their website, but redistributing mods against their creators will is actively hurting the modding community.

This, and also this site is apparently on blockchain, which means that it's laggy as frick. I can't even open two or three tabs with it at the same time without it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ itself and crashing on 404.

[FRISH]

Първоначално публикувано от Dork_Stalker_310:

Първоначално публикувано от FRISH:

Claiming that actions have consequences is not a threat, because believe it or not, not everyone will be coming to you, talking about problems they see, especially if you try to exclude them. You have no idea the culture you're creating.

You are doing it again.

"excluding them" - so, back on the topic of mods. I took a look at this BasedMods website, and outside of actual based mods like "Top heavy Tifa", we have:
-"Metal Gear Solid 3/Swastika Bandana";
- "DOOM II/Christchurch Wad (recreates Chrischurch attack)";
- "DOOM II/Columbine";
- "Rimworld/Basedworld - Races and Racism (you now can do racism in Rimworld)".
and so on.

I'm not saying that this website shouldn't exist or anything, but do you think that there maybe other reasons why some people dislike it, outside of "it just hosts things that are anti-woke"? Or is it just a general type of edgelords that most people would find cringe and wouldn't want to associate with?

So basically you can criticise a private entity? The problem can be easily solved if nexus/moddb actually allowed mods that are only controversial to ideologues. Instead ideologues push everything not allowed into one space and then blame "the far right" due to their own exclusionary practises. You rarely see people wanting to ban mods that are rainbow inclusive. It shows who is more reasonable and idk why we decided to let unreasonable people decide how everything should operate. Why society chooses to prioritise their feelings above everyone else's. That everyone who feels uncomfortable should just "deal with it", but the moment a privileged class feels uncomfortable society needs to coddle them.

Tl;dr: society needs more fathers

[TaKo]

just report the weirdo for derailing and stop feeding the brain worms in their head

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Yeah, in my humble opinion, the side that is upset about rainbows and wants to have Doom mods about school shootings isn't a reasonable one. And people, who go to extreme length defending this side, aren't reasonable ones either. As a matter of fact they are pretty cringe.

But, I'm pretty sure DnD won't approve behavior like this, so case closed. They will stay in their little cuck shed containment site and other people won't have to deal with them.

[FRISH]

Първоначално публикувано от Dork_Stalker_310:

Yeah, in my humble opinion, the side that is upset about rainbows and wants to have Doom mods about school shootings isn't a reasonable one. And people, who go to extreme length defending this side, aren't reasonable ones either. As a matter of fact they are pretty cringe.

But, I'm pretty sure DnD won't approve behavior like this, so case closed. They will stay in their little cuck shed containment site and other people won't have to deal with them.

Are you sure? I've seen the stances of other communities.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2192840/Terfenstein_3D/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2192840/discussions/0/4136060742865355570/

[Morion]

Първоначално публикувано от Dork_Stalker_310:

Yeah, in my humble opinion, the side that is upset about rainbows and wants to have Doom mods about school shootings isn't a reasonable one. And people, who go to extreme length defending this side, aren't reasonable ones either. As a matter of fact they are pretty cringe.

But, I'm pretty sure DnD won't approve behavior like this, so case closed. They will stay in their little cuck shed containment site and other people won't have to deal with them.

You think that DnD approved mods will be a thing? Bethesda tried that. Another dead site. People want freedom with their products. And if they dont wanna rainbows in games, they will always have place that will provide them proper mods.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Първоначално публикувано от Morion:

Първоначално публикувано от Dork_Stalker_310:

Yeah, in my humble opinion, the side that is upset about rainbows and wants to have Doom mods about school shootings isn't a reasonable one. And people, who go to extreme length defending this side, aren't reasonable ones either. As a matter of fact they are pretty cringe.

But, I'm pretty sure DnD won't approve behavior like this, so case closed. They will stay in their little cuck shed containment site and other people won't have to deal with them.

You think that DnD approved mods will be a thing? Bethesda tried that. Another dead site. People want freedom with their products. And if they dont wanna rainbows in games, they will always have place that will provide them proper mods.

It's more...if you want mods on consoles you need something different then steam workshop or nexusmods. Because those don't work on consoles....
That's their main purpose.
But once you have one system for modding going, why add a second one for PC? It's much easier to just reuse the same one for PC.
So yes, they will be a thing and bethesda net will stay a thing...just not for PC...because pc was never the focus here...

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Първоначално публикувано от FRISH:

Are you sure? I've seen the stances of other communities.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2192840/Terfenstein_3D/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2192840/discussions/0/4136060742865355570/

Giga-cringe, I disavow.
As cringe as it is, however, it's still not a school shooting or a terror attack.

Първоначално публикувано от Morion:

You think that DnD approved mods will be a thing? Bethesda tried that. Another dead site. People want freedom with their products. And if they dont wanna rainbows in games, they will always have place that will provide them proper mods.

Of course people have freedom to do that. And other people have freedom not to do that - or not to host mods that do that on their websites. That's what this whole discussion is all about.

[Morion]

Dont host it and watch as people go for other sites. Winds are chaning and more and more people are tired with that and dont wanna rainbows etc, and sites that are removing content for them are making them angry. Even few years ago there wouldnt be even conversation about nexus issues apart from the small groups. And now you have that - conversation here for 11 pages. People need more than Disney quality in games.