Kind of crazy that BG3 is considered a AA game given the...

[Vakula]

$100 million budget. Gaming got too bloated these days, thats the reason we are seeing most AAA games take no risks and just deliver the same game everyone likes, but no one truly loves.

[Agarillobob]

I think its mesaured around what studio does the game and not the budget
you need to keep in mind AAA studios usually have multiple games in the making and even 2-3 releases per year

[GriffinPilgrim]

Gods help us but they're trying to make AAAA a thing now...

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Gods help us but they're trying to make AAAA a thing now...

makes sense Id say the 3 main AAAA studios would be sony nintendo and microsoft

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Gods help us but they're trying to make AAAA a thing now...

makes sense Id say the 3 main AAAA studios would be sony nintendo and microsoft

Actually it was an Ubisoft exec who coined the term, in a desperate attempt to make Skull and Bones seem like more than another lazy live service money hoover.

[Detective Costeau]

Is there even any actual commonly agreed on definition of what "AA" and "AAA" games are?
Not much use discussing it without one, really.

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

makes sense Id say the 3 main AAAA studios would be sony nintendo and microsoft

Actually it was an Ubisoft exec who coined the term, in a desperate attempt to make Skull and Bones seem like more than another lazy live service money hoover.

with how many games ubisoft produced at a time id actually see them as 4A tbh but yea the reason and skull and bones def isnt
usually AAA is considered ♥♥♥♥ anyways so AAAA doiesnt make it better just more ♥♥♥♥ as usually AA or just A indie games are better for the last 5 years

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by Detective Costeau:

Is there even any actual commonly agreed on definition of what "AA" and "AAA" games are?
Not much use discussing it without one, really.

A is usually singe or a small team of devs workign on a new game without many or any previous releases
AAA are the big publishers and companies
AA are all the inbetween already established studios with a few games under their belt but not big enough to publish games not made by them and only workign on 2 maybe 3 agmes at a time with less then 1 release per year

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Gods help us but they're trying to make AAAA a thing now...

I feel like at that point it's just screaming

Personally the rise of 'AAA' coincided with what I consider to be one of the weaker periods of gaming history so I really don't care about the whole naming scheme.

[♂Warrior of Gachi♂]

Nobody consideres it AA, what are you talking about. It's as AAA as it gets.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Detective Costeau:

Is there even any actual commonly agreed on definition of what "AA" and "AAA" games are?
Not much use discussing it without one, really.

There isn't, no. There are basically two fields: one says it's about the number of people working at a company, the other says it's about budget.

[Lashane The Simp of Mimi]

could be wrong but i'm pretty sure budget total is only part of the puzzle. it's very important because don't fool yourself money is always important but there's more to it on this topic. that said i didn't realize it had 100 million. that's even more crazy consider modders still had to add many missing features Larian failed to deliver by default. as i play more with nearly 500 hours it's mostly because modders fixed and added so many things that make BG3 truly fun i don't think i could touch the game without the mods anymore.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Lashane The Phantom:

could be wrong but i'm pretty sure budget total is only part of the puzzle. it's very important because don't fool yourself money is always important but there's more to it on this topic. that said i didn't realize it had 100 million. that's even more crazy consider modders still had to add many missing features Larian failed to deliver by default. as i play more with nearly 500 hours it's mostly because modders fixed and added so many things that make BG3 truly fun i don't think i could touch the game without the mods anymore.

Just because you want something to be different, or expected something to be in the game, doesn't mean Larian "failed to deliver", nor that those things are "missing".

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

AAA is a grading term and it comes from grading trading cards etc, where AAA describes the highest value and quality.
In video game terms it means the video game production. AAA supposedly has the highest production value/quality.
It only has indirect relation to the budget, theoretically a low budget title with a small team/single dev could reach AAA, given enough time, though it would take an effing long time....
That's coincidentally also why there can be indy Tripple A games. indy means something different. indy comes from independent. The game is made independent from outside influence, where the devs could do whatever they wanted. No investors, shareholders or publishers telling them what to do. As you can see indy doesn't say anything about production value/quality.
Though often those 2 are linked together as in independent studios usually don't have the budget or time to deliver AAA games, so it's understandable, that many people got used to use those 2 terms as opposites over time...

[Lashane The Simp of Mimi]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Lashane The Phantom:

could be wrong but i'm pretty sure budget total is only part of the puzzle. it's very important because don't fool yourself money is always important but there's more to it on this topic. that said i didn't realize it had 100 million. that's even more crazy consider modders still had to add many missing features Larian failed to deliver by default. as i play more with nearly 500 hours it's mostly because modders fixed and added so many things that make BG3 truly fun i don't think i could touch the game without the mods anymore.

Just because you want something to be different, or expected something to be in the game, doesn't mean Larian "failed to deliver", nor that those things are "missing".

nope. with that much money behind them they failed. it's a fun game but without certain quality of life and aesthetic mods it goes from a perfect 10 to about a 7.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Lashane The Phantom:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Just because you want something to be different, or expected something to be in the game, doesn't mean Larian "failed to deliver", nor that those things are "missing".

nope. with that much money behind them they failed. it's a fun game but without certain quality of life and aesthetic mods it goes from a perfect 10 to about a 7.

I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you that no amount of money can give developers the ability to read players' minds.