ansur fight

[icon_of_sin]

I Beat ansur by keeping my party in the room before where he appears, keeping the door shut although this did not seam to make any difference ) and hitting him with ranged attacks every time he positioned himself right outside the door.

I had use of dragon slayer arrows and speed potions to speed it up a bit.

apparently i could have used the potion that gives lightening resistance too.

is this a legit means of winning?

[Orion Invictus]

Depends on what you mean by "legit". It involves using meta-knowledge, for one, which some people wouldn't consider legit.

[Gob]

By the time you are there your team will be at around level 9. if they are a well built team with four offensive members then at that level you should be able to kill Ansur in one round.

[Kappa]

Originally posted by Gob:

By the time you are there your team will be at around level 9. if they are a well built team with four offensive members then at that level you should be able to kill Ansur in one round.

What?

By the time you hit act 3 your team should already be lvl 10. Ansur, assuming the party roams a little in bg city, along with Gortesh and orin, will probably end up being a lvl 12 encounter most of the time.

[kingonads]

Originally posted by icon_of_sin:

I Beat ansur by keeping my party in the room before where he appears, keeping the door shut although this did not seam to make any difference ) and hitting him with ranged attacks every time he positioned himself right outside the door.

I had use of dragon slayer arrows and speed potions to speed it up a bit.

apparently i could have used the potion that gives lightening resistance too.

is this a legit means of winning?

Any fight that you win is a "legit" way of winning. Also Ansur depending on the difficulty is either a moderately easy fight to a OMG WHY SO HARD fight.

[Chadwick Strongpants]

Originally posted by Kappa:

Originally posted by Gob:

By the time you are there your team will be at around level 9. if they are a well built team with four offensive members then at that level you should be able to kill Ansur in one round.

What?

By the time you hit act 3 your team should already be lvl 10. Ansur, assuming the party roams a little in bg city, along with Gortesh and orin, will probably end up being a lvl 12 encounter most of the time.

Not necessarily. Not everyone optimizes the heck out of the game, and that's a valid way to play too.

[Kappa]

Originally posted by Chadwick Strongpants:

Originally posted by Kappa:

What?

By the time you hit act 3 your team should already be lvl 10. Ansur, assuming the party roams a little in bg city, along with Gortesh and orin, will probably end up being a lvl 12 encounter most of the time.

Not necessarily. Not everyone optimizes the heck out of the game, and that's a valid way to play too.

It's not about optimization.
A person who plays the game from act1 to act 3 would be around lvl 10 by the start of act 3 or the beginning of bg3 city.

I do agree one might rush and skip a load of content ( ending up being lvl 8 for example, by the beginning of act 3 ), but that would be the exception ( leaving apart that pushing towards ansur would require specific quests and zones to visit, hence why it's almost impossible to reach him by lvl 9 ).

[xposethedarkside]

I never understood the concept of meta knowledge being "not legit".

Meta knowledge is crucial to becoming better at any game. Find me a no hit run of Dark Souls done by someone who's never played Dark Souls before?
Find me someone who's done a speed run of a game that's never played it before, it doesn't make sense.

Humans learn by doing, by doing things over and over to become better at them. You use meta knowledge even when you don't think you are.

If you go into the fight blind and win, great, if you lose and have to retry the encounter, all that knowledge about the fight from the first time you learned stays with you, there's no way to unlearn what you've already seen.
There is no way to play any game without any meta knowledge at all.
The game might reset, but your brain doesn't. It just keeps learning.

[Chadwick Strongpants]

Originally posted by Kappa:

Originally posted by Chadwick Strongpants:

Not necessarily. Not everyone optimizes the heck out of the game, and that's a valid way to play too.

It's not about optimization.
A person who plays the game from act1 to act 3 would be around lvl 10 by the start of act 3 or the beginning of bg3 city.

Fair. I'm quite frequently level 9 or even 8 once I make it to act 3, but that's because I avoid content that doesn't align with my char's RP. :)

[Kappa]

Originally posted by Chadwick Strongpants:

Originally posted by Kappa:

It's not about optimization.
A person who plays the game from act1 to act 3 would be around lvl 10 by the start of act 3 or the beginning of bg3 city.

Fair. I'm quite frequently level 9 or even 8 once I make it to act 3, but that's because I avoid content that doesn't align with my char's RP. :)

Fair :) ( you mean your tav or companion missions you don't recruit/use? For example, avoiding the gith creche? )

[Chadwick Strongpants]

Originally posted by Kappa:

Originally posted by Chadwick Strongpants:

Fair. I'm quite frequently level 9 or even 8 once I make it to act 3, but that's because I avoid content that doesn't align with my char's RP. :)

Fair :) ( you mean your tav or companion missions you don't recruit/use? For example, avoiding the gith creche? )

That's a good example! Last playthrough I went full evil with Shadowheart and downright gutted Lae'zel (and Karlach) first chance I got. Never had a reason to go to the Mountain Pass after that, especially because it made more sense for her to favour the Underdark (night affinity and all that).

Had a lot of fun with that game.

[kingonads]

Originally posted by Chadwick Strongpants:

Originally posted by Kappa:

Fair :) ( you mean your tav or companion missions you don't recruit/use? For example, avoiding the gith creche? )

That's a good example! Last playthrough I went full evil with Shadowheart and downright gutted Lae'zel (and Karlach) first chance I got. Never had a reason to go to the Mountain Pass after that, especially because it made more sense for her to favour the Underdark (night affinity and all that).

Had a lot of fun with that game.

Most fun play through I have had has been when I actually.... "Role Play" in a RPG... I know crazy in this day and age.. but it still happens.