About the absolute bi romances .

[Giallo Bot]

I'm guilty the game voice actors are that good that i can pass over the fact that everyone is bi , but i played trough the pathfinder games recently and i see that giving a preference to the characters give them a lot of more depth in what they can write in the romance .
What you guys think , did the romanced result castrated by going full bi or the writers were that good to never make u notice that?

I'm bi irl. Serious question.

[seeker1]

I played WotR. BTW, and I had to double check the Wiki, but ...

Four characters are player/bi sexual ... Wenduag, Daeran, Arushelae, and ... surprisingly, Queen Galfrey.

Then three are not ... Camelia and Lann are het only, and Sosiel is exclusively gay.

But, in fact, then the bi > not, even in WotR.

Also, JMHO, but except for Arushelae's romance, which is really interesting (spoiler: you have to help her become more human so she can touch you without draining your lifeforce since she's a succubus) ... the rest are far worse, and much less interesting.

Camelia ... sigh, so cute, but she has .... murderhobo issues. Queen Galfrey is really kind of a secret/hidden companion, and Wenduag ... well, maybe it's the spider arms, and her habits.

[Orion Invictus]

"Bi" is a preference too.

[seandeven]

"I'm bi irl. Serious question."

Serious answer~ no. playersexual.


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Don't castrate your thought process. Depth has nothing to do with your tripe. The "world" of Faerun can repopulate the moment another human creates a story about faerun on earth. The idea that pathfinders romances are deep makes me laugh.... its the same approval bar that these characters in bg3 have, please enlighten the room WHY the characters you feel are deep. Bisexuals would rely more on fosterage anyway, have you looked, and the jerks on this earth planet.


Question: Do you like game romances because they effectively label and categorize each players romance and what they should look like in a game.

Larians approach is choice on the player I sympathize with a lack of being able to make a choice but the choice is yours and by the looks of things the sales don't lie.

[Trolleur_Durden]

There's a difference between bi and playersexual.

[dulany67]

You're right, but when an RPG doesn't make the characters player sexual, people complain. See CP2077.

[Amplifier]

IDGAF... You can easily turn down the other party members from the get-go and they wont bring it up ever again anyway

[seeker1]

Correct, for developers, this is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

Make all romances bi/playersexual ... people whine about lack of depth, or pushing a so-called woke agenda.
Make all romances exclusively gay or het - people complain about being locked out of them

There is no way to please everybody, unfortunately. I have no problem with Larian's choice.

[Zsrai]

Originally posted by dulany67:

You're right, but when an RPG doesn't make the characters player sexual, people complain. See CP2077.

It's been like that since back in the peak Bioware days. There is no pleasing everyone, since everyone has different tastes.

I'm like 60/40 "specific preference" vs "playersexual", but it also depends on how the characters are written and presented.

[TheClosetSkeleton]

I don't tend to give much though about a character's sexuality. Faerûn being pretty sexually liberated, being sexually queer doesn't really affect their personality like it would in our world, so who cares.

[harken23]

The playersexual thing may be the way to go, really, but it does make romance too easy, esp if monogamy is the standard (there is a polyamory mod that I haven't downloaded). I haven't progressed terribly far in that respect with any companions, tho (no kissing scenes yet, lol). It is interesting to be turned down by a NPC, tho. In I think Andromeda, I hit on a female NPC, but she turned me down bkz she was straight.

[Giallo Bot]

Originally posted by seandeven:

"I'm bi irl. Serious question."

Serious answer~ no. playersexual.


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Don't castrate your thought process. Depth has nothing to do with your tripe. The "world" of Faerun can repopulate the moment another human creates a story about faerun on earth. The idea that pathfinders romances are deep makes me laugh.... its the same approval bar that these characters in bg3 have, please enlighten the room WHY the characters you feel are deep. Bisexuals would rely more on fosterage anyway, have you looked, and the jerks on this earth planet.


Question: Do you like game romances because they effectively label and categorize each players romance and what they should look like in a game.

Larians approach is choice on the player I sympathize with a lack of being able to make a choice but the choice is yours and by the looks of things the sales don't lie.

Lann,Camellia , Sosiel , all beutifull romances that wouldn't work with a swap gender, of course there are mods for it, for example Camelia that wanted to be punished after dealing her missdeed ( very ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and raw romance that 1)
i think shadowheart,gale and wyll should be etherosexual to have a bigger impact in their romances . but still i respect larian choiches .
the point i'm making is : would have been stronger the effect of the romance or not ? to my opinion probabily yes , you could openly do more sexualised choiches that would make the romances more impactfull instead of blurring a lot of lines in the middle .

[Giallo Bot]

Originally posted by harken23:

The playersexual thing may be the way to go, really, but it does make romance too easy, esp if monogamy is the standard (there is a polyamory mod that I haven't downloaded). I haven't progressed terribly far in that respect with any companions, tho (no kissing scenes yet, lol). It is interesting to be turned down by a NPC, tho. In I think Andromeda, I hit on a female NPC, but she turned me down bkz she was straight.

vetra is my favourite romance of all time and she is actualy BI but yes i think it give more to the companions identity the fact that they have a choiche.
for example for me is canon wyll and karlakh romance , and it would have been cool to develop such a romance even if you don't play it, a bit like garrus and tali .

[bibron]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Camelia ... sigh, so cute, but she has .... murderhobo issues. Queen Galfrey is really kind of a secret/hidden companion, and Wenduag ... well, maybe it's the spider arms, and her habits.

Jeah, true. She was kinda .. special.
Still liked her but sometimes I kinda wanted to kill her und put her out of her misery

[❤N'wahCliffracer❤]

I think it does to a degree, but I have other minor quibbles with the romance system.

In every playthrough I have rp'd a gay male and romanced Astarion. I wish I had the option to tell the ladies, "I'm gay" or "I like men" when they come at me. You'd think if you turned down one saying you're gay the others you wouldn't be interested in would leave you alone due to camp gossip and such. If you can choose pronouns I don't see why they couldn't have given an orientation option. Just a simple straight/gay/bi.

Even more so, I wish the other companions would leave me alone after it should be clear my character is in a relationship. Not in a way that it would lock out players who want to ♥♥♥♥ multiple characters from doing so, but where the PC would have to broach that topic if they were already romancing someone else. Or at least most of the characters; I wouldn't expect Mizora or Harleep to respect that. Maybe not the Emperor either.

But Halsin coming on to my PC at the beginning of act 3 (at least in my current playthrough--it's been act 2 in some) is a bit ... not horribly jarring, but feels unrealistic to me, given his personality. It's like, "I just asked Astarion for a kiss in camp, and a minute later you're asking to ♥♥♥♥ me, Halsin? Really?" So did Wyll in another playthrough. My PC had already slept with Astarion even before the party, then I have dude flitting around trying to get me to dance with him. It doesn't fit his character, imo. Gale pulled that ♥♥♥♥ too in one of my playthroughs.

It does screw with the immersion for me a tad that the companions seem completely oblivious to what's going on or assume my PC would just cheat. But like I said, it's a minor quibble. It doesn't ruin the game for me, I still love it to death. I just roll my eyes and turn them down.

[Draknalor]

Originally posted by Random's Giallo:

I'm guilty the game voice actors are that good that i can pass over the fact that everyone is bi , but i played trough the pathfinder games recently and i see that giving a preference to the characters give them a lot of more depth in what they can write in the romance .
What you guys think , did the romanced result castrated by going full bi or the writers were that good to never make u notice that?

I'm bi irl. Serious question.

If i could not romance Karlach, shadowheart, minthara, Lae'zel as a female tav then just.. no buy from me.

I am not playing a male character, Since you can.. you know.. go topless tits out the entire game if you want to.

A picture of the Tav's i've created so far, spoiler tagged due to the NSFW nature of the picture.


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