Why is the Cleric the most unplayed class?

[Jardenon]

The Cleric class is absolutely broken OP in this game.

[Stevcorp]

Because at the end of the day, the cleric's job is heals.

And if you're playing cleric and don't want to be the healbot, then you need a second cleric to do it instead.

[Яeplicant]

steffan8 eredeti hozzászólása:

Яeplicant eredeti hozzászólása:

Ha, Josh Sawyer said something similar not too long ago.

Yes, in Pillars of Eternity they were not a healbot, either. Although there was way to make a character almost immortal involving the cleric healing powers. ;)

May have to test that out, when I'm doing another franchise run before Avowed comes along. Unless Cipher still has it's claws around me.

[TheClosetSkeleton]

Stevcorp eredeti hozzászólása:

Because at the end of the day, the cleric's job is heals.

And if you're playing cleric and don't want to be the healbot, then you need a second cleric to do it instead.

Hard disagree. Healing in DnD, and thus, in BG3 is EXTREMELY marginal. You cannot outheal incoming damage, unless you build yourself around healing. If you have to heal often in fights, something's gone wrong.

I only keep one healing speal on a cleric at anytime, simply because it's really not good, and only serves as getting characters back up from a distance.

Clerics are AOI damage dealer, who's main job is to both do widespread damages and inflicts statuses, while having some pretty brutal single target option.

It's harder to build than the traditional striker, but if you are build your cleric as a healbot, you are doing it very wrong. If you want a healer class, you go druid, or even mage sometimes.

[Morvana]

I think the main "problem" is the religious part. I don't really want to play a character with a faith I don't understand at all (not because religion, but because it's a background I can't really build on).

[Quillithe]

Agreed, healing spells are mostly good for healing word to get people up easily, and maybe mass healing word if you have buffs on healing.

Some of the more specialized abilities like life domain are alright heals. But it's definitely not a normal thing to depend on and most healing spells are rather terrible.

[TheClosetSkeleton]

Morvana eredeti hozzászólása:

I think the main "problem" is the religious part. I don't really want to play a character with a faith I don't understand at all (not because religion, but because it's a background I can't really build on).

Maybe for newcomers, but I think most roleplayers don't really care. Plenty of info around the deities, and if you are curious, you can just watch a couple of videos to get an idea of who does what.

Same reason people play Loth-sworn drow, role-playing purposes.

[FlyingTorcensoredWhale]

Morvana eredeti hozzászólása:

I think the main "problem" is the religious part. I don't really want to play a character with a faith I don't understand at all (not because religion, but because it's a background I can't really build on).

To the Wall of the Faithless you go! Pick a god, just an advice. You really don't want to go to Wall of the Faithless

[Awaken]

One of the most popular companions being a cleric probably doesn’t help.

[seeker1]

Used to be an option for all classes to pick a deity at character creation -- Larian dropped that from release -- some mods put it back. (It clearly makes sense especially for other classes like druid or paladin). Canonically, just about all people in Faerun worship gods - in fact, most do because as described above you usually pick a god whose plane you want to spend the afterlife on .., otherwise, Fugue Plane, Wall of Faithless, etc. But only clerics really devote themselves to actively acting on their behalf, recruiting followers, killing their enemies, etc. Or finding Mysterious Artefacts for them ...

Anyway, D & D clerics are NOT just healbots. You want them and paladins when you are facing demons, devils, or undead and various unholy things ... the latter two are quite all over the place in this game. They are more than just buffers or support. Go into the War Domain and they get very good at introducing mace to face. Also, they get a decent selection of offensive magic.

[Lord Adorable]

Awaken eredeti hozzászólása:

One of the most popular companions being a cleric probably doesn’t help.

But Astarion isn't a Cleric unless you respec him! >:U

[Jardenon]

Chaosolous eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm using one on this playthrough and I've found them pretty useless.

Skill issue.

[Brian_the_Brute]

Shart already there, don't need a second cleric and it's a support class that doesn't deal huge damage in general. Most useful is taking just 1 level in tempest cleric to get certain abilities for multi-classing.

You can even leave Shart at camp and just have her join temporarily to cast things like aid and hero's feast and then kick her back out of the group.

I will let Shart adventure with the group when there's undead to be killed. There's also a couple of items that boost the weak heals and gives everyone blade ward and extra HP with a simple mass healing spell, but you will typically lower your parties damage output with a cleric around taking up a slot.

[ULTRA]

"OMG! I did enough damage to kill an enemy! OP!!"

[TheClosetSkeleton]

ULTRA eredeti hozzászólása:

"OMG! I did enough damage to kill an enemy! OP!!"

Closer to "OMG, I casted one spell and now half the terrain is unsuable and everyone on it brutally died".

Again, good clerics do not ♥♥♥♥ around. They believe in gods and will send you to meet them.

[ULTRA]

TheClosetSkeleton eredeti hozzászólása:

ULTRA eredeti hozzászólása:

"OMG! I did enough damage to kill an enemy! OP!!"

Closer to "OMG, I casted one spell and now half the terrain is unsuable and everyone on it brutally died".

Again, good clerics do not ♥♥♥♥ around. They believe in gods and will send you to meet them.

Like 90% of the classes in this game can kill 5+ enemies in one turn.