Why doesn't Larian add new faces, hair, makeup, body tattoos?

[XGear]

I went to take a look at the MODS website, I have to say I was tempted and impressed with what I saw there. Lots of beautiful hair, new faces, classes, among tons of things that would make this game reach another level.
If these guys did this, why doesn't Larian do it? I heard that they prefer to "Support" Mods, rather than creating something official themselves. I don't like Mods, for me, they are flawed customization files that always cause problems on the computer, after all, they are not made by the game company.
Larian should bring more official customizations to the playerbase, if Moders do it, why can't the Larian team?

[Dude]

a) and b) very subjective. I would strongly disagree
c) there might be better examples but here is one where you can see a model compared to an ingame depiction of her face (i think it is starfield) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEPPHouUUg0 ...i was no done with the vid there are several examples in it.
d) fair point on both sides. mods make multiplayer a hassle and create more work. having decent faces would be great
e) when they have time for kissing animations they have time for better faces

[The_Dipl0mat]

Y'know I find the faces rather nice. I've made several cute tieflin gals with em. Ultimately, a game made to please everyone won't please anyone. Sure, more customization would be neat but its not guaranteed. I think its pretty great as is

If you don't like it, either mod it or just "grit your teeth" at it or somethin, idk

[XGear]

Originally posted by Wölki:

a) and b) very subjective. I would strongly disagree
c) there might be better examples but here is one where you can see a model compared to an ingame depiction of her face (i think it is starfield) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEPPHouUUg0
d) fair point on both sides. mods make multiplayer a hassle and create more work. having decent faces would be great
e) when they have time for kissing animations they have time for better faces

Come one, Larian have time to make "Mr Dingles" swing like a church bell, how come Lari doesn't have to make better face presets? They just dont want to.

[Cloud Strife]

I tend to agree with this post. While all of this is true, I'm not quite sure if I would have more fun, or not, by having new faces. I mean, the experience is already over the top and more then expected to begin with. In the other hand, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the team want to turn the page at some point and making another project. Especially after 6-7 years on the same game... It was the same thing with the teleseries Game of Thrones, pretty sure it was amazing the first years, second year, third year, but at nine years in some other country for acting in front of cameras, with good script gone, the ending was some kind of huge relief.

[Dude]

you don"t have to argue with me i am with you man :D There is plenty of stuff larian could have skipped and invested in a better selection of faces and bodytypes. As you say due to woke reasons the do not want to.

[wildconspiracythoery]Maybe it is an attempt to make men attracted to transwomen, slow and steady brainwashing so to say[/wildconspiracythoery]

[XGear]

Originally posted by Wölki:

you don"t have to argue with me i am with you man :D There is plenty of stuff larian could have skipped and invested in a better selection of faces and bodytypes. As you say due to woke reasons the do not want to.

[wildconspiracythoery]Maybe it is an attempt to make men attracted to transwomen, slow and steady brainwashing so to say[/wildconspiracythoery]

Not arguing, im just validating your words. I agree with all your sentences. My english is sh...t i wasnt meaning to argue with you sorry, just point that Larian have time to make it if they want.

[Dude]

all good man. not a native speaker myself. i hail from the wonderful country of germany

and now let the nsjokes commence

[XGear]

Originally posted by Wölki:

all good man. not a native speaker myself. i hail from the wonderful country of germany

and now let the nsjokes commence

A great country, I remember my trips to Berlin,.

"Es lebe Deutschland."

[Gungnir]

Originally posted by Wölki:

all good man. not a native speaker myself. i hail from the wonderful country of germany

and now let the nsjokes commence

If you're from Germany then why are you playing this game and not partaking in SCHPORT. Go gather more PFAND

[Dude]

i am not in retirement yet so no need to gather pfand.
It is not schport but Sport. I do weigtlifting like every other dude. but this thread is not about my freetime activities.

But hey not an nsjoke. you get points for not picking the low hanging fruit.

[Renlish]

I am presuming the limited faces is due to the animation of the rigs themselves, or they just thought we'd have enough choice. The preset faces actually allows for a very wide range of diverse looks whereas I think having a system where you can push/pull features would actually be a limitation - I've seen what people lean into in my four decades of gaming and even with the mods available, they all lean the exact same way regarding physical qualities. I admit I wouldn't mind a few more presets in the vanilla game, it would even be better for the NPCs since Abdirak and Oskar are the same face and it kills me every time I see it.

[Brian_the_Brute]

Mods do it well and it's free for them. Larian hinted they will be including some existing community mods in their mod support in the next big patch. Hopefully the excellent work done by the community to de-uglify and expand the limited vanilla head selection and improvements like that will make it in.

[seeker1]

Originally posted by Wölki:

a) and b) very subjective. I would strongly disagree

So cool. At the end of the day, there is no winning an argument of subjective perception.

People say the faces of women like Minthara and Karlach and Viconia are masculine; I disagree.

That said, of the three, Karlach is (to me) the most attractive, and I will just be blunt - I find Nym prettier than Minthara. Viconia isn't very pretty but look she's also around 600 years old by the time of BG3. Not in her prime modelling days anymore. Lae'Zel would be a little prettier, I think, if you subtract her part-amphibian Githyanki look, but she doesn't look "masculine" to me either. I will agree with folks that Shadowheart looks the most classically "feminine". I think that and her familiarity makes her the most preferred female romance option.

I get it. How can we convince each other? I'm not trying. I'm just saying no women in the game look "masculine" to me, and while they aren't all attractive, many of them are, NPCs AND ones you can make in the character creator.

The one thing I don't see is any deliberate "woke" conspiracy to uglify the women in the game anymore than the men. No, that to me is NONSENSE.

To return to the question of the OP, and echo the points made above, I think there are plenty of mods out there for additional faces, bigger boobs, bigger butts, more radical tats, just about anything people want -- instead of reinventing the wheel, Larian should simply stay on track with their goal of adding more official mod support, making it even easier for people to use.

[Dude]

we could find out which models were used for the faces and compare

so according to this: https://www.thegamer.com/baldurs-gate-3-character-creator-scans-real-people/ they scanned 40 Faces to create 150 faces. So very obviously modifications were done. I do not find a list anywhere which models they used sadly.

have you watched the video that demonstrates uglification done in other games?

[Daniel]

No traditionally beautiful women & masculine emotionally secure men allowed in western media.