Is True Soul Nere an unfinished character?

[Cyber]

Do you think Nere character was left unfinished? Should he be a playable character who should be available from the start, or at least take him as a companion like Mintaru? I would like him to be made a game character, maybe even in the DLC with a different story and a different start, unlike other characters

[Simple Kind of Man]

no
even if you spare him he dies later.....

[Razorblade]

I highly doubt Nere was meant for greater things. I mean, he's an evil Drow that became a True Soul; his character is just Minthara with a penis. Developing him further as a companion would be pointless.

[Chaosolous]

As for Nere, doubtful.

I do think more "evil" companions would be nice though.

I've enjoyed my evil playthrough (not murder hobo, just evil) and it's not as fulfilling as the good playthrough was.

I'm still enjoying it but there's definitely a skew towards which way you're expected to play.

[zero]

i dont really see where'd that idea would come from? he, like many npcs, is a 1 off character, has a basic premise and then ultimately is killed by you, so he only has enough story to be entertaining until that moment.

[Brian_the_Brute]

Nere, Araj, and Dhourn should all be recruitable for a Drow TAV, need more evil NPCs in general. For Nere, I just cloned him with a mod in an all drow playthrough before I beheaded him. No more dialogue but he fit in nice with the crew.

[votadc]

He was rushed. He Is without the lantern but he reach Balthazar before you. They could just make him disappear like duergars or Z'rell (yeah if you deliver Nightsong to Ketheric she survives but she doesn't even bother to lead the Absolute army)

[seeker1]

Do you want him as a hireling? Because there's a mod for that.

Nere as Hireling
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/2326

Again, I don't tend to use these, and I don't know what will happen if you recruit him and then he runs into himself in Grymforge. Maybe the space/time continuum rips apart, LOL.

[dulany67]

No, I don't think so.

[jonnin]

Of course. Unless you are jerking around your readers like game of thrones books, you don't give a giant 1000 page background to a guy who is about to bite the dust in less than 5 min. He has enough story to get the job done -- who cares which drow city he lived in or what house? Who cares if he was the archmage of their academy or just a minor wizard? He is dead or about to be... its not relevant. It doesn't matter which drow priestess beat him or whether he was exiled and found himself on the surface 2 steps ahead of being a drider.

There is no reason you can't roll a drow named nere into your party and make up the missing parts either. Go for it! Seems simple, basic a-hole personality, basic caster package, basic psychopath alignment. Done!

[Steffan]

Originally posted by Razorblade:

I highly doubt Nere was meant for greater things. I mean, he's an evil Drow that was became a True Soul; his character is just Minthara with a penis. Developing him further as a companion would be pointless.

That's straightforward insulting to Minthara. She is more competent and efficient than Nere. She killed to motivate her underlings, not simply for pleasure. What Nere did was stupid, risky and out of anger. Even the scrying eye joins the duergar, not Nere.

And yes, chances are high somebody else finishes him off in Act 2, if you don't kill him. So in a sense, yes, he is an unfinished character.

[Cyber]

Originally posted by zero:

i dont really see where'd that idea would come from? he, like many npcs, is a 1 off character, has a basic premise and then ultimately is killed by you, so he only has enough story to be entertaining until that moment.

Nere doesn’t have to kill, after salvation, if you develop the dialogue (I played as Drow), the line of dialogue appears “I don’t hear the Absolute, you did something, and the main character tells him who the Absolute is and that the True Soul is infected with a parasite that obeys the power of the Absolute . If you fail the dialogue, then Nere attacks the character and says I will take away from you what protects you from the control of the Absolute. But if you persuade Nere, you can tell him to return to Lolth, he says “I will do so” but why- then he goes to Balthazar and there are zombies there. All they had to do was make a line of dialogue “join me and we will destroy the Absolute and we will be free.”

[Cyber]

Originally posted by steffan8:

Originally posted by Razorblade:

I highly doubt Nere was meant for greater things. I mean, he's an evil Drow that was became a True Soul; his character is just Minthara with a penis. Developing him further as a companion would be pointless.

That's straightforward insulting to Minthara. She is more competent and efficient than Nere. She killed to motivate her underlings, not simply for pleasure. What Nere did was stupid, risky and out of anger. Even the scrying eye joins the duergar, not Nere.

And yes, chances are high somebody else finishes him off in Act 2, if you don't kill him. So in a sense, yes, he is an unfinished character.

Originally posted by steffan8:

Originally posted by Razorblade:

I highly doubt Nere was meant for greater things. I mean, he's an evil Drow that was became a True Soul; his character is just Minthara with a penis. Developing him further as a companion would be pointless.

That's straightforward insulting to Minthara. She is more competent and efficient than Nere. She killed to motivate her underlings, not simply for pleasure. What Nere did was stupid, risky and out of anger. Even the scrying eye joins the duergar, not Nere.

And yes, chances are high somebody else finishes him off in Act 2, if you don't kill him. So in a sense, yes, he is an unfinished character.

If you spare Nere, he will go into the second Act and turn into a zombie in the ranks of Balthazar. But what will happen if you kill Balthazar, and then go to save Nere, and I don’t know what will happen to him

[Steffan]

Originally posted by Cyber:

Originally posted by zero:

i dont really see where'd that idea would come from? he, like many npcs, is a 1 off character, has a basic premise and then ultimately is killed by you, so he only has enough story to be entertaining until that moment.

Nere doesn’t have to kill, after salvation, if you develop the dialogue (I played as Drow), the line of dialogue appears “I don’t hear the Absolute, you did something, and the main character tells him who the Absolute is and that the True Soul is infected with a parasite that obeys the power of the Absolute . If you fail the dialogue, then Nere attacks the character and says I will take away from you what protects you from the control of the Absolute. But if you persuade Nere, you can tell him to return to Lolth, he says “I will do so” but why- then he goes to Balthazar and there are zombies there. All they had to do was make a line of dialogue “join me and we will destroy the Absolute and we will be free.”

Ah, then I was certainly close to 'redeeming' him as a drow (another Lolth renegade, btw). But then I thought... "Do I want to trust him with that secret?" and proceeded to kill him to silence him forever (as he did start to suspect something about me).

Ah, in that case it does sound like a missed opportunity to introduce him as extra aid vs. the Absolute.

[Exarch_Alpha]

Originally posted by Razorblade:

I highly doubt Nere was meant for greater things. I mean, he's an evil Drow that became a True Soul; his character is just Minthara with a penis. Developing him further as a companion would be pointless.

I do think they thought about making him the evil spell caster. Gale and Wyll are two golden retrievers.