WoTC dropped Larian for being too Woke?

[Graydon]

It's all over the internet.

The good news is the next DnD game will create unity and not division.

Hopefully this is a teachable moment for Larian.

[Zsrai]

Originally posted by lefty1117:

Just block these people. There's no need to engage

Don't forget to report as well.

[martincheeto]

BILLIONS MUST EAT THE BAIT

[alanc9]

Even by Graydon's standards, this one is out there.

OTOH, it's actually funny this time.

[Boomgaarden93]

Originally posted by Graydon:

It's all over the internet.

The good news is the next DnD game will create unity and not division.

Hopefully this is a teachable moment for Larian.

What are you talking about? I enjoy everything in BG3 and I am a republican, as well as a PCO in my district. This has never felt woke at all. Its a genuinely enjoyable experience.

[PeLeSki]

That's rubbish! Larian dropped Wotc because they're a car crash driven off a cliff by greed. They sacked all the people Larian were working with to produce BG3

[Brian_the_Brute]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Yeah, and there's the other thread we have on here saying Hasbro tried to buy Larian, and then blocked them from making any DLC.

Look folks, there is stuff on the Interwebz indeed, and I'm going to give an actual source. Here's what went down.

Larian CEO has been 'reading the Reddit threads' and wants us to remove our tinfoil hats, says Wizards of the Coast isn't the reason Baldur's Gate 3 is finished
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/baldurs-gate/larian-ceo-has-been-reading-the-reddit-threads-and-wants-us-to-remove-our-tinfoil-hats-says-wizards-of-the-coast-isnt-the-reason-baldurs-gate-3-is-finished/

But Larian CEO Swen Vincke has now come out to say that's not the case. In a post on Twitter, Vincke said he's been "Reading the Reddit threads," and felt obliged to clarify the situation, at least a little. "WOTC is not responsible for us taking a different direction," wrote Vincke, "On the contrary, they really did their best and have been a great licensor for us, letting us do our thing." Rather than a dramatic falling out, Vincke says the decision to leave D&D behind is because "it's what's best for Larian."

Well, isn't that an anticlimax? Fans were assuming some kind of dramatic corporate rift had emerged behind the scenes, and now Swen Vincke comes along to assure us that, no, really, Larian's heart just wasn't in it.
[snip][end]

In short: no, there's no bad blood between WotC and Larian. The team was just fatigued. Sven was testing the idea of doing DLC before the holidays and then found their hearts just weren't in it anymore. They've moved on, but it's not because either company is pissed at each other.

So: the one thing to note is this does not mean the two companies have sworn off EVER working with each other again. But for now, yeah, they're taking a break. Larian wants to do something else.

damage control. it's corporate speak. I don't believe the other 2 statements from the OPs, but they are just talking nice because that's good for business.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Boomgaarden93:

Originally posted by Graydon:

It's all over the internet.

The good news is the next DnD game will create unity and not division.

Hopefully this is a teachable moment for Larian.

What are you talking about? I enjoy everything in BG3 and I am a republican, as well as a PCO in my district. This has never felt woke at all. Its a genuinely enjoyable experience.

There are people online that call everything woke. It's rendered the word rather meaningless.

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by Brian_the_Brute:

Originally posted by seeker1:

Yeah, and there's the other thread we have on here saying Hasbro tried to buy Larian, and then blocked them from making any DLC.

Look folks, there is stuff on the Interwebz indeed, and I'm going to give an actual source. Here's what went down.

Larian CEO has been 'reading the Reddit threads' and wants us to remove our tinfoil hats, says Wizards of the Coast isn't the reason Baldur's Gate 3 is finished
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/baldurs-gate/larian-ceo-has-been-reading-the-reddit-threads-and-wants-us-to-remove-our-tinfoil-hats-says-wizards-of-the-coast-isnt-the-reason-baldurs-gate-3-is-finished/

But Larian CEO Swen Vincke has now come out to say that's not the case. In a post on Twitter, Vincke said he's been "Reading the Reddit threads," and felt obliged to clarify the situation, at least a little. "WOTC is not responsible for us taking a different direction," wrote Vincke, "On the contrary, they really did their best and have been a great licensor for us, letting us do our thing." Rather than a dramatic falling out, Vincke says the decision to leave D&D behind is because "it's what's best for Larian."

Well, isn't that an anticlimax? Fans were assuming some kind of dramatic corporate rift had emerged behind the scenes, and now Swen Vincke comes along to assure us that, no, really, Larian's heart just wasn't in it.
[snip][end]

In short: no, there's no bad blood between WotC and Larian. The team was just fatigued. Sven was testing the idea of doing DLC before the holidays and then found their hearts just weren't in it anymore. They've moved on, but it's not because either company is pissed at each other.

So: the one thing to note is this does not mean the two companies have sworn off EVER working with each other again. But for now, yeah, they're taking a break. Larian wants to do something else.

damage control. it's corporate speak.

Prove it.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Originally posted by Brian_the_Brute:

damage control. it's corporate speak.

Prove it.

Eh I can believe some sort of 'you fired the people we worked with' or 'you want more money now' or something that's a normal disagreement could contribute while not being something they want to make a huge fuss out of because it's pretty unprofessional.

We don't really know of course. It could just be them wanting to do something different.

[seeker1]

Originally posted by Brian_the_Brute:

damage control. it's corporate speak.

I believe Sven might want to maintain a working relationship with WotC so as to leave future collaborations open. Yeah. So he's being very diplomatic.

I suspect he WAS upset about WotC firing the people he had first worked with and made the licensing deal with. He said as much. I don't think that was the sole or key reason for the 'breakup'. But yeah, post facto, he's not emphasizing that. No need to.

He wants to do other stuff, but he doesn't want a bridge totally burned after leaving. Makes sense to me.

Also, if it was something the other way around - like Larian had ticked off WotC over - whatever? - there's no reason WotC wouldn't have said so - and they are also confirming there's no bad blood between them.

In short, I guess you could claim both sides are lying. As usual, that would be speculation for which you have provided no evidence.

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Prove it.

Eh I can believe some sort of 'you fired the people we worked with' or 'you want more money now' or something that's a normal disagreement could contribute while not being something they want to make a huge fuss out of because it's pretty unprofessional.

We don't really know of course. It could just be them wanting to do something different.

Indeed. Normal disagreements could be a factor. My money's more on Larian just wanting to do their own thing.

So we've arrived at things just.. being business as usual. Huh.

[Brian_the_Brute]

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Originally posted by Brian_the_Brute:

damage control. it's corporate speak.

Prove it.

read it. they were miserable and are just talking nice. I am not agreeing with the OPs statements, just pointing out the nice speak from Larian that's fake, that's what companies do all the time.

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by Brian_the_Brute:

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Prove it.

read it. they were miserable and are just talking nice. I am not agreeing with the OPs statements, just pointing out the nice speak from Larian that's fake, that's what companies do all the time.

Welcome to capitalism baby. It allegedly works.

[Brian_the_Brute]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Originally posted by Brian_the_Brute:

damage control. it's corporate speak.

I believe Sven might want to maintain a working relationship with WotC so as to leave future collaborations open. Yeah. So he's being very diplomatic.

I suspect he WAS upset about WotC firing the people he had first worked with and made the licensing deal with. He said as much. I don't think that was the sole or key reason for the 'breakup'. But yeah, post facto, he's not emphasizing that. No need to.

He wants to do other stuff, but he doesn't want a bridge totally burned after leaving. Makes sense to me.

Also, if it was something the other way around - like Larian had ticked off WotC over - whatever? - there's no reason WotC wouldn't have said so - and they are also confirming there's no bad blood between them.

In short, I guess you could claim both sides are lying. As usual, that would be speculation for which you have provided no evidence.

hasbro fired everyone they worked with. they stated there were miserable. likely they both lie, they don't want bad PR. pretty silly if you believe all the publicity statement corporations make. You have to read between the lines and look at their actions, not what they say.

[Brian_the_Brute]

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

Originally posted by Brian_the_Brute:

read it. they were miserable and are just talking nice. I am not agreeing with the OPs statements, just pointing out the nice speak from Larian that's fake, that's what companies do all the time.

Welcome to capitalism baby. It allegedly works. :LaughingOwlcat:

lying, cheating, and stealing makes money.