Who is the main character?

[pkd]

Every other companion overshadows my guy. There is no overarching story centered around the player, and I feel as though I'm more of an observer than an active participant. I just react to whatever is expected of me and passively take in other party members' rich exposition dump, character arcs and needs. My character feels more like a walking, blank template in comparison.

Playing as Dark Urge adds more flavor and interest, but still feels more like an homage to the previous games than anything else. Your character is not the hero and ultimately not that important; Karlach can save the world, as can other characters. The fact that your companions are "origin characters" only underscores their importance versus the custom character.

Games that get it right know it's all about the ego/power trip, and not about being a glorified waterboy. That said, I still very much enjoy BG3 as a complete package.

[The Yeen Queen]

You're the player of the character. It's your character. you tell the story within the story that's been crafted. They can't customize the experience to every single player character that gets made. Your choices and actions tell your story. You're not along for the ride. You're guiding the plot.

[Starwight/ttv]

Welcome to DnD. You're NOT the main character, EVERYONE is the main character. If you can't enjoy that, then tabletop gaming, and RPGs like this one, aren't going to be your cup of tea.

[zero]

your adventuring party is, not your character specifically.

thats how D&D is.

[Hobocop]

Welcome to ensemble casts?

[ReoHays]

I take it you have never finished the game. In the game you are the "Hero" or a "Zero" So you need to write your own story. So by the sounds of it, right now you are a "Zero" cause you let your party members make the decisions, when they are always looking to you for an answer. You must have not told Lazel to shut up. Unless you are romancing her, that needs to be done. Grow some stones and take control of your own game or Lazel will do it for you.

[Hexoplex]

Everyone else was off doing something at the time of abduction. You (Tav) was just sitting on the couch diddlin the dally when you got taken Nox style and thrust into the story.

https://youtu.be/mcpCO42X8m8?si=Vjnji3VAw6geyKJe

[pkd]

Originally posted by Night Foxx (She/her):

You're the player of the character. It's your character. you tell the story within the story that's been crafted. They can't customize the experience to every single player character that gets made. Your choices and actions tell your story. You're not along for the ride. You're guiding the plot.

Originally posted by Starwight/ttv:

Welcome to DnD. You're NOT the main character, EVERYONE is the main character. If you can't enjoy that, then tabletop gaming, and RPGs like this one, aren't going to be your cup of tea.

With all due respect, guys, but that's utter nonsense. We're playing a single player video game, not a tabletop d&d session with several other people. In Baldur's Gate 2, YOU were the main character. In Mass Effect trilogy, YOU were the main character. The same goes for countless other party based RPG games, like Fallout 2, etc. In contrast, BG3 feels more like I'm indirectly controlling my companions instead. My points stand - the player character lacks any meaningful backstory and importance, and in a SINGLE PLAYER VIDEO GAME, that isn't the way to go about things.

[Lord Adorable]

In Dungeons & Dragons? No-one is.
Maybe Elminster. Maybe someone else. It ain't any adventurer party, that's for sure.

[dulany67]

Originally posted by pkd:

Games that get it right know it's all about the ego/power trip, and not about being a glorified waterboy.

For you. That is not the case here. Embrace it to get the most out of the game.

[ReoHays]

In BG2 you could Solo the game with just your main character. In BG3 I have so far been unable to outside of story and easy mode. Tact Difficulty I have been unable to. BG2 you also have a past because of BG1. Playing the Urge has nothing more to do with BG2 than playing any other. Everybody has an opinion and everybody else s stinks.

[Mafdet]

Making a charisma character helps as you win all influence checks. Conversation will revolve around you. Charisma classes are so strong too : paladin, warlock etc.

[Hexoplex]

Originally posted by Mafdet:

Making a charisma character helps as you win all influence checks. Conversation will revolve around you. Charisma classes are so strong too : paladin, warlock etc.

Yeah but it's a poorly designed system if your character HAS to be the face of the group. Sometimes I don't want to be a Warlock, Paladin, or Bard.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by pkd:

Originally posted by Night Foxx (She/her):

You're the player of the character. It's your character. you tell the story within the story that's been crafted. They can't customize the experience to every single player character that gets made. Your choices and actions tell your story. You're not along for the ride. You're guiding the plot.

Originally posted by Starwight/ttv:

Welcome to DnD. You're NOT the main character, EVERYONE is the main character. If you can't enjoy that, then tabletop gaming, and RPGs like this one, aren't going to be your cup of tea.

With all due respect, guys, but that's utter nonsense. We're playing a single player video game, not a tabletop d&d session with several other people. In Baldur's Gate 2, YOU were the main character. In Mass Effect trilogy, YOU were the main character. The same goes for countless other party based RPG games, like Fallout 2, etc. In contrast, BG3 feels more like I'm indirectly controlling my companions instead. My points stand - the player character lacks any meaningful backstory and importance, and in a SINGLE PLAYER VIDEO GAME, that isn't the way to go about things.

In half the party based games you're super important, in the other half you're a random dude.

Here they're both an option really. If you pick random dude you pick random dude.

[The Yeen Queen]

Originally posted by pkd:

Originally posted by Night Foxx (She/her):

You're the player of the character. It's your character. you tell the story within the story that's been crafted. They can't customize the experience to every single player character that gets made. Your choices and actions tell your story. You're not along for the ride. You're guiding the plot.

Originally posted by Starwight/ttv:

Welcome to DnD. You're NOT the main character, EVERYONE is the main character. If you can't enjoy that, then tabletop gaming, and RPGs like this one, aren't going to be your cup of tea.

With all due respect, guys, but that's utter nonsense. We're playing a single player video game, not a tabletop d&d session with several other people. In Baldur's Gate 2, YOU were the main character. In Mass Effect trilogy, YOU were the main character. The same goes for countless other party based RPG games, like Fallout 2, etc. In contrast, BG3 feels more like I'm indirectly controlling my companions instead. My points stand - the player character lacks any meaningful backstory and importance, and in a SINGLE PLAYER VIDEO GAME, that isn't the way to go about things.

You're no less the main character here than you are in those. Hell, in Mass Effect, your character was LESS your own than it is here. The game lets you spin your own character's story. I'm sorry you lack the creativity to be able to handle that, but that's the whole POINT of RPGs. YOU craft your character's story, you don't get it handed to you.

[seeker1]

IMHO, you can be very instrumental in helping your companions reach the best resolutions for their situations and their lives:

Now, you might not agree with me, but for me this is

Restoring Shadowheart to who she was MEANT to be, a priestess of Selune, before Viconia kidnapped her and turned her into a slave of Shar.

Helping Astarion end the cycle of abuse, and finally become free of his master, without becoming him.

Helping Gale reconcile with his goddess/lover, give her the Crown, make him realize there are things more important than power and ambition. (Like Tara, I think his god-ending is a bad one for him.)

My heart melted when Lae'Zel told me, "You will be remember in our slates as Mlag'Hir, Liberator." Maybe I have helped the Githyanki overthrow that ♥♥♥♥♥ queen, Vlaakith.

I think it is Wyll's destiny to be the next Duke Ravengard. For me, this is his best ending. He needs to rule over the city with courage, strategy, insight, and justice.

It's hard to say if you CAN get a good ending for Karlach, but I'm still convinced based on the epilogue, it's sending her back to Avernus, with some HOPE there CAN be a permanent fix for her Infernal Engine.

I got to participate in all these stories. The growth of all these people. I led them to be the best versions of themselves. This to me makes this an awesome story.

And who knows, maybe just maybe, my Tav is living his happiest ever after life with one of them, with two little usses in the future. You never know. Because s/he deserves their happy ending, too.