Mattis / Mol Seems Bugged

[nephalim]

So I talked to Mattis and made him repeat the coin toss many many times (he kept having slightly different dialogue) and he gave me the ring for free. I don't remember failing any checks. After entering and exiting trading with him, there is a note that he winks, and nothing else happens that I can tell.

Then later I talked to him with with a different character and he expressed amazement that I stole his ring (which I didn't.) Now I have no dialogue options and can't do anything with him, including trade. His brother says to talk to him.

I entered the cave and Mol counted to 10, I didn't leave in time and all the NPC's disappeared. No one is in the cave now.

Now Mol is standing outside and just says some angry words when I talk to him, I have no dialogue options. He reported me to the guards for being mean or something which I talked my way out of.

I rescued the child thief and saved the other kid from the Harpies. Mol still hates me.

Is my game bugged or is this all normal (the part about stealing the ring is clearly a bug, but Mol refused to talk to me before that happened.)

[Tax evasion]

I entered the cave and Mol counted to 10, I didn't leave in time and all the NPC's disappeared. No one is in the cave now.

Working as intended.

Mol still hates me

yup

[nephalim]

So that's it they are gone and he hates me forever because I didn't leave to the count of 10? Can I kill him?

[ReBootXD]

Originally posted by nephalim:

So that's it they are gone and he hates me forever because I didn't leave to the count of 10? Can I kill him?

Yes you can kill them, no they won’t hate you forever.

If they live and you meet them in act 2 they will acknowledge that you helped the harpie boy and idol girl, then they will be friendly with you again.

[Remedy]

I'm pretty sure if you do something that harms any of her friends, even if you save the others, she will stay hostile towards you for the duration of the grove. Not sure what happened with Mattis and the ring though.

[Brian_the_Brute]

Game script is broken there. Ideally you want to walk past and avoid Mattis. Go rescue the kid from the harpies first and you will be on their good side. If you don't do that and get pick-pocketed first while he is talking, the story is bugged and you can't resolve the quest to get your stuff back.

[nephalim]

Originally posted by Remedy:

I'm pretty sure if you do something that harms any of her friends, even if you save the others, she will stay hostile towards you for the duration of the grove. Not sure what happened with Mattis and the ring though.

The only thing I did was refuse to leave the hideout in 10 seconds

[Remedy]

Originally posted by nephalim:

Originally posted by Remedy:

I'm pretty sure if you do something that harms any of her friends, even if you save the others, she will stay hostile towards you for the duration of the grove. Not sure what happened with Mattis and the ring though.

The only thing I did was refuse to leave the hideout in 10 seconds

What I mean is, I believe that countdown started because of the perceived slight to Mattis. Had Mattis not been treated as having his ring stolen, I don't believe the countdown would have happened and then they would not be hostile.

[ReBootXD]

Mol gives the countdown when you enter the hideout uninvited, the only way to get invited to the hideout is to save Harpie Boy

[guard65]

The perception check after the trade is the theft of goods that you missed, thus the wink to his friend who succeeded in picking your pocket.

Originally posted by ReBootXD:

Mol gives the countdown when you enter the hideout uninvited, the only way to get invited to the hideout is to save Harpie Boy

Save the boy from the Harpies is the way into the hideout to get credit.

[nephalim]

Originally posted by guard65:

The perception check after the trade is the theft of goods that you missed, thus the wink to his friend who succeeded in picking your pocket.

Originally posted by ReBootXD:

Mol gives the countdown when you enter the hideout uninvited, the only way to get invited to the hideout is to save Harpie Boy

Save the boy from the Harpies is the way into the hideout to get credit.

I was never offered a perception check

This game is great but it is still buggier than a Bethesda launch title

[Satyryczny Liberał/X/Twitter/]

The worst part is that the guards talk to me all the time. What I mean is I roll the dice correctly, narrator say the guards believe me that I didn't hurt the kids, the cutscene ends. Not even one second passes and I get the same voiceline and cutscene that I allegedly hurt the kids.
I literally cannot even move anywhere from one place to another. My character is locked. During the party with the druids the guard is there too as one of the guests. Now you cannot even progress the story because I can't even go to sleep. Good job Larian. 7 patches and 30 hour run ending bug is still not fixed.