Why cannot you speak with dead Dark Urge at Baal tamlpe?

[dancing.in.the.web]

When you don't play DU there is a dead white dragonborn body at Orin's apartment but you cannot speak to it (((

[Kairax2]

Kinda hard to speak when dead durge head kinda caved-in. (You can know that if you play as durge)
Why that wasn't shown on model or described - guess it's just a fаk-up from larian.

[dancing.in.the.web]

I see no reason why damaged head is problem for speak with dead spell.

[The22nd]

Originally posted by dancing.in.the.web:

I see no reason why damaged head is problem for speak with dead spell.

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[Toaster Maximus]

Originally posted by dancing.in.the.web:

I see no reason why damaged head is problem for speak with dead spell.

The body does not have the means to form words anymore, urge basically got his head split apart and why when you play has him you can't recall much at first and why you gotta use a heal later on him to regain somethings

[Fluffykeith]

Originally posted by The22nd:

Originally posted by dancing.in.the.web:

I see no reason why damaged head is problem for speak with dead spell.

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I’ve run across instances where the game has said that a corpse was too badly damaged for the spell to work.

[eRe4s3r]

Originally posted by Fluffykeith:

Originally posted by The22nd:

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I’ve run across instances where the game has said that a corpse was too badly damaged for the spell to work.

A puddle of red strawberries does make for bad conversation.

Rules say "The corpse must still have a mouth and can’t be undead"
Which is all kinds of weird too. I don't think anyone ever read that spell properly to be honest.

[Toaster Maximus]

Originally posted by eRe4s3r:

Originally posted by Fluffykeith:

I’ve run across instances where the game has said that a corpse was too badly damaged for the spell to work.

A puddle of red strawberries does make for bad conversation.

Rules say "The corpse must still have a mouth and can’t be undead"
Which is all kinds of weird too. I don't think anyone ever read that spell properly to be honest.

That and the one ritual in the game can cause some miss understanding also, given you more or less use speak with dead on a mind flyer but head is still in tact so can still speak like they do even if the mouth is not critical for them

[RhiTheWitch]

Originally posted by eRe4s3r:

Originally posted by Fluffykeith:

I’ve run across instances where the game has said that a corpse was too badly damaged for the spell to work.

A puddle of red strawberries does make for bad conversation.

Rules say "The corpse must still have a mouth and can’t be undead"
Which is all kinds of weird too. I don't think anyone ever read that spell properly to be honest.

I didn't realize the "undead" part. Is this why we cant speak to Balthazar and Kressa as well?