Githyanki Monks in Astral plane fight

[Martimus Prime]

[UPDATE: I got it done. Hold Person was the cheap clutch. Me (9 CoM Druid, Halsin, Gale and Shadowheart. Held them all down and finished them off.

I hate cheap cheese.]

Is the most ridiculous, heinous stupidly difficult fight I have EVER played in any game like this. Ever. 42/42 achieves in Elden Ring. I destroy that game like it's for kindergarteners. I have destroyed Divinity: Original Sin 2. But this???

There is no reason for this fight to be this impossible. NO fight I've done up to this point was overly difficult. But........

You HAVE to cheese it or you will fail. The monks NEVER fail a save. They can teleport around the battlefield, attack multiple times for 20 HP's each hit, and every one of them have more HP's than you, if not double or triple the amount, can't be shoved off cliffs. Can't be knocked down prone...have insane AOE's from crazy stupid distances, and all of them start out with high ground and initiative. You cast an AOE like Stinking Cloud? They teleport onto Gale, break his concentration, knock him down to 1/4th his life, and all your actions for that round were wasted.

Who's idea was this? I am halfway through level 9 on Normal mode and it is just impossible. I've tried every single party member combination. I've tried summoning elementals beforehand. They take so little damage, DO so much damage, are insanely mobile, are hard to hit, and can't be controlled/dominated/charmed/held without save scumming.

I need some help here. Does anyone have advice on this fight?? Is there something i am missing?? The Illithid guardian is just useless. Totally worthless.

And why are healing spells so pathetic? OH gee, thanks for that 9 hit points, Shadowheart. Totally saved me.

[Pat Fenis]

Hard to say without seeing how your characters are built and equipped. Sounds like lack of initiative if you are getting dunked on so hard and fast. Physical attack enemies are crippled by radiating orb, reeling, stun, paralyze, prone + frighten, lots of ways to win this one.

[Brian_the_Brute]

Concentrate on what you can do, like aid and bless on yourself and also haste. Use Mirror Image and Blur and other protection spells.
Smite them with a paladin.
Magic missile is 100%, they can't save against that and there's builds to turn that into a lot of damage on top of what you normally get.
There's items to boost your initiative.
Hunger of Hadar can help slow down a couple of them while you deal with the others.
Cloudkill is a CON save, which should be more effective on them than some other spells.
Use a monk against them, some of their own medicine.
Misty step, dimension door, or fly up to a platform as well for anyone you don't want in melee or do that with a fighter to engage them if they are up there plugging away at you.

[Ssinee]

Pf.. easy fight in all difficulty. Just use hold person spell.

[Mojo]

Originally posted by Ssinsstrigg:

Pf.. easy fight in all difficulty. Just use hold person spell.

Agree, not a hard fight, in all difficulties, did it without Hold Person Spell.

Not sure what OP team set up may be, would help in giving better pointers.

Edit:

Could also be your under leveled. I have heard people rushing it and getting to the fight at only lvl 7ish to 8.... If that is the case then yes can see how it would be a difficult fight.

Usually I am lvl 10 at this fight. (Sometimes if I "rush" it I am Lvl 9 a smidge away from 10.

[Centruo]

For whatever it's worth, it sounds like you may have missed a few items that Shadowheart can use that make her aoe healing word very effective, regardless of their actual heal number. Namely the ring (Whispering Promise) you can buy from Volo and the gloves you get from Zevlor (Hellrider's Pride) for either beating the goblin bosses or killing him. Combined these items turn her aoe healing word into a heal, bless, and resistance to all physical damage. These will also apply to her single target heal.

Also keep in mind that in the astral plane your characters can also jump very far, so closing the distance between you and any monk shouldn't be a problem. If Gale is an evocation wizard he can throw out all the aoe damage spells he has against anyone and not hit your party, should that be a concern. Just keep in mind this only applies to evocation spells, so any conjuration aoe damage spells will still damage the party. If Gale has metamagic adept (assuming it's a feat in the game and not just one that I've used forever from the 5e Feats mod) he can also dual cast Haste on Lae'zel and Karlach, who, when raging, will have resistance to all the attacks the githyanki are doing, though to be fair, if Shadowheart used mass healing word and the above mentioned items, so would everyone else in your party. And by that point Lae'zel should have up to 6 attacks per round when hasted with Action Surge.

All that said, monks are very, very effective in melee so it shouldn't be a surprise that facing 4 to 6 of them at once is a struggle. If you're having trouble reaching the portal when you're first woken up keep in mind that Astarion can dash twice per round, and there's really no reason to fight the gith in your camp.

[Go0lden_Archer]

Hold person + good melee = all dead in one turn, or wrapped up on second turn. Just make sure that whomever casts hold person has good save dc.

Also, any CC is near cheaty in ttthis game, it'll save you lives, or saves. Pure damage isn't always the answer, unless you control the battle and hold initiative.

[Kangaroo Salesman]

Without using spells like hold person it was quite an easy fight as they are lacking range. Warlock, and throw barb kinda just stomped them all.

[Mike Garrison]

I have to disagree with the people who are all jumping in saying the fight is "easy". It's often one of the more difficult fights in the game, really. I've done it about 10 times now, and sometimes it is really tough. Other times I just crush the monks like nothing. So RNG comes in to play in terms of saves made and saves failed.

But CC spells like Hold Person are really helpful. They don't always hit, but they hit often enough. However, if you yourself get stunned or CC'd, it can snowball on you very badly, very quickly.

I will also say that Elden Ring experience means nothing. Elden Ring is an entirely different kind of game. This is turn-based combat. More like XCOM than Elden Ring.

And healing is mostly a trap. Use healing outside combat, and for bonus actions. You want Shadowheart casting Hold Person with her action, not trying to heal people. The best "healing" is to kill the enemies before they can do damage to you.

[identity]

Hold Person is your friend.

[Baldurs_Gate_2]

The easiest way to deal with them is actually to buy chain lightning scrolls from the quartermaster and just blast them away.

[FunkyMonkey]

I believe their worst save is STR, so if you have access to Telekinesis, just throw them over the edge.

[brendan_in_china]

They hit you when you're not juiced up with elixirs, and taking elixirs for these 1-2 fights is not really worth it. Except, the gith monks can hit hard. So I quaff some anyway.

OP needs to share a bit more about their party set-up: companion classes and preferred companion strats. Only then can we guess at where they're going wrong.

Sounds a bit like party is caster heavy?

[Martimus Prime]

I got it done. Hold Person was the cheap clutch. Me, Halsin, Gale and Shadowheart. Held them all down and finished them off.

I hate cheap cheese.

[Ssinee]

Originally posted by Martimus Prime:

I got it done. Hold Person was the cheap clutch. Me, Halsin, Gale and Shadowheart. Held them all down and finished them off.

I hate cheap cheese.

In general, your complaints are not clear, these are the mechanics of the game, everything is according to the rules. Well, in general, congratulations. :)

[Pyromaiden]

skill issue tbh