Longstrider buff disappears after un-preparing spell - bug or just how it works?

[Craqshot]

I started a new play through with a fighter (1) / wizard (1) and encountered something that surprised me with how buff effects and prepared spell slots work. I prepared Longstrider and used it buff everyone in the party. Then because I didn't need to cast it again that day, I unprepared it and used that slot for another spell. Then I got in a fight and was surprised when my movement was back to 9m. Turned out that unpreparing Longstrider caused the condition to disappear.

I tested with Enhanced Leap and the same thing. When I unprepared the spell, the buff goes away. However, when I did same thing with Find Familiar, the summon is not dismissed.

Does anyone know if this is the way it's supposed to work or if it's a bug? I guess it kinda helps the balance of the game and adds some skin to the game when considering how to use your limited prepared slots. How does the mechanic work in 5e?

[Tax evasion]

This is indeed how it is supposed to work. Spells without concentration still need to be prepared to have their lasting effect.
As for "how it is supposed to work" in 5e, I cannot answer to that.

[Ironwu]

Not a bug. There are some things you can cast that 'stick' after removing an item based spell. But that almost never applies to 'forgetting' a spell that the caster has 'learned'.

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by Tax evasion:

This is indeed how it is supposed to work. Spells without concentration still need to be prepared to have their lasting effect.
As for "how it is supposed to work" in 5e, I cannot answer to that.

5e rules for rituals are that the spell needs to be prepared and you need to be a ritual-caster to cast them as rituals.

You can only change your list of prepared spells during a long rest, so casting a ritual and then unpreparing a spell isn't possible.

[Ironwu]

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Originally posted by Tax evasion:

This is indeed how it is supposed to work. Spells without concentration still need to be prepared to have their lasting effect.
As for "how it is supposed to work" in 5e, I cannot answer to that.

5e rules for rituals are that the spell needs to be prepared and you need to be a ritual-caster to cast them as rituals.

You can only change your list of prepared spells during a long rest, so casting a ritual and then unpreparing a spell isn't possible.

Unless you are a Wizard, who get's Longstrider early and can change spells any time out of combat. The buff does vanish if you remove Longstider from Prepared list.

[Zeel Ara]

Originally posted by Ironwu:

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

5e rules for rituals are that the spell needs to be prepared and you need to be a ritual-caster to cast them as rituals.

You can only change your list of prepared spells during a long rest, so casting a ritual and then unpreparing a spell isn't possible.

Unless you are a Wizard, who get's Longstrider early and can change spells any time out of combat. The buff does vanish if you remove Longstider from Prepared list.

That's the BG3 rules. The post you quoted talks about the 5e rules. In which wizards can only change prepared spells on during long rest.

[Ironwu]

Originally posted by Ratley:

Originally posted by Ironwu:

Unless you are a Wizard, who get's Longstrider early and can change spells any time out of combat. The buff does vanish if you remove Longstider from Prepared list.

That's the BG3 rules. The post you quoted talks about the 5e rules. In which wizards can only change prepared spells on during long rest.

Yes, we are kind of mixing rules here between the TT and CRPG sets. Don't know why BG3 went with different rules for Wizards preparing spells.

Still, if one removes the prepared spell, the buff is lost. In either case the buff lasts until Long Rest or the spell is no longer prepared. Whichever comes first, in both rule sets. :)