I don't understand this conversation with Wyll and the Duke

[SirLío]

[Spoilers] I broke Mizora's contract with Wyll and was able to save his father afterwards but the conversation that Wyll and the Duke has in the camp doesn't make sense for me cuz it seems like Wyll sacrificed his soul to save his father which was not the case. This is just something that I found kinda strange. Did I just interpret the conversation badly?

[Mike Garrison]

I think that conversation has a mild logic bug. It kind of assumes that if the Duke survived then Wyll probably renewed his contract.

[SirLío]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

I think that conversation has a mild logic bug. It kind of assumes that if the Duke survived then Wyll probably renewed his contract.

That was what I thought. This conversation doesn't make sense if you break Wyll's contract. Mizora acknowledge that Wyll broke his contract and was able to save his father but not the Duke.

[emreyigit1967]

There are a few bugged convos in Act 3. This is one of them.

[Lani]

I recommend reporting it to Larian.
There's a different version of that conversation that should play out, so there may be a logic-tree glitch somewhere.

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[Starwight/ttv]

I see talks of bugs but I am skeptical. I assumed Ravengard was talking about how Wyll entered a pact with Mizora in the first place--because remember, he knew full well that Wyll became a servant and his pact.

[Lani]

Originally posted by Starwight/ttv:

I see talks of bugs but I am skeptical. I assumed Ravengard was talking about how Wyll entered a pact with Mizora in the first place--because remember, he knew full well that Wyll became a servant and his pact.

He didn't know about the pact. Wyll was magically gagged (geas) from telling the details of his pact to him.
For some reason he can tell random TAVs though.
For the Duke seeing Wyll's having been transformed by Mizora into a devil would be his first clue..

[SunbladeDRGN]

Originally posted by Lani:

He didn't know about the pact. Wyll was magically gagged (geas) from telling the details of his pact to him.
For some reason he can tell random TAVs though.
For the Duke seeing Wyll's having been transformed by Mizora into a devil would be his first clue..

The Duke 100% knew about the original pact. Wyll even explains that when he father came home, he found Wyll with the she-devil, and knew he'd become a Warlock. He tried to explain WHY he did it, and Mizora gagged him & wiped clean the evidence, but the Duke still knew he'd made a pact, just not why.

That being said, the dialogue still feels as if it was the dialogue for not breaking the pact.

[Tresh]

Originally posted by Lani:

Originally posted by Starwight/ttv:

I see talks of bugs but I am skeptical. I assumed Ravengard was talking about how Wyll entered a pact with Mizora in the first place--because remember, he knew full well that Wyll became a servant and his pact.

He didn't know about the pact. Wyll was magically gagged (geas) from telling the details of his pact to him.
For some reason he can tell random TAVs though.
For the Duke seeing Wyll's having been transformed by Mizora into a devil would be his first clue..

He tells you that his pact forbids him from giving you the details, not from mentioning his pact entirely. I think it's in act 3 when Mizora allows him to tell you the full story.

[Estevan Valladares]

And took until act 3 for the OP to realize the game does not really keep track of the threads they start, which means they worked on opening the thing to have multiple ways, which doesnt incur in development work (writing itself), but when it comes to making a solid system that accounts for multiple threads and voice acting all those, the game fell short (it involves much more expensive "writing", ie writing code, and talent hours to voice it).

It is really a wonder of the industry this game, because it can get the praise and the following of a "wonder" by making even lazier and crapier work than hated games from the other houses.