House of Flowers: Oliver bugged?

[Ironmanfaf]

Picked back up my playthrough after months and my buddy is telling me I gotta get Oliver to reunite with Thaniel. Problem is I already had an interaction with Oliver way back when. Now he's just standing there. When I try to talk to him (or attack him) he just says "I won fair and square. There's no point in playing again. I want a challenge." and then the dialogue ends.

Am I missing something here? Apparently he's supposed to open a portal or something? None of that has happened. Halsin wont do anything either. Whenever i talk to him at camp, he just describes Thaniel to me. There is even a quest marker above Oliver that says "House of Flowers", but clicking it does nothing.

[Smerk]

Maybe chat to Thaniel again if you haven’t.

[Vyvance80HD]

Originally posted by Ironmanfaf:

Picked back up my playthrough after months and my buddy is telling me I gotta get Oliver to reunite with Thaniel. Problem is I already had an interaction with Oliver way back when. Now he's just standing there. When I try to talk to him (or attack him) he just says "I won fair and square. There's no point in playing again. I want a challenge." and then the dialogue ends.

Am I missing something here? Apparently he's supposed to open a portal or something? None of that has happened. Halsin wont do anything either. Whenever i talk to him at camp, he just describes Thaniel to me. There is even a quest marker above Oliver that says "House of Flowers", but clicking it does nothing.

you need to awaken the unconscious flaming fist in the groundfloor bedroom of the last light in.

to do this, you need to go to the hospital west on the map, kill the thorm or convince him to kill himself, take the LUTE off his body, then give it to the sleeping flaming fist, thats when the portal will open, defend the portal, then thaniel will be safe, and you can have halsin in your party

[Lani]

It might help to know at which step of the quest you are or were months ago.
I recommend checking out the summary for the 'Lift the Shadow Curse' quest at BG3.wiki:
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Lift_the_Shadow_Curse

Then proceed your playthrough from where you left off.

Hint: It's not Oliver who opens a portal but Halsin.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Nobody:

Originally posted by Ironmanfaf:

Picked back up my playthrough after months and my buddy is telling me I gotta get Oliver to reunite with Thaniel. Problem is I already had an interaction with Oliver way back when. Now he's just standing there. When I try to talk to him (or attack him) he just says "I won fair and square. There's no point in playing again. I want a challenge." and then the dialogue ends.

Am I missing something here? Apparently he's supposed to open a portal or something? None of that has happened. Halsin wont do anything either. Whenever i talk to him at camp, he just describes Thaniel to me. There is even a quest marker above Oliver that says "House of Flowers", but clicking it does nothing.

Did you actually win both games of hide and seek?

You have to win twice. Then do the defend the portal, speak with Halsin at your camp, and then go back to Oliver, only then he will open the portal.

You don't need to win at hide-and-seek, at all. In fact, you don't even need to encounter Oliver first.

This is the correct answer:

Originally posted by GazzaMATE29:

Originally posted by Ironmanfaf:

Picked back up my playthrough after months and my buddy is telling me I gotta get Oliver to reunite with Thaniel. Problem is I already had an interaction with Oliver way back when. Now he's just standing there. When I try to talk to him (or attack him) he just says "I won fair and square. There's no point in playing again. I want a challenge." and then the dialogue ends.

Am I missing something here? Apparently he's supposed to open a portal or something? None of that has happened. Halsin wont do anything either. Whenever i talk to him at camp, he just describes Thaniel to me. There is even a quest marker above Oliver that says "House of Flowers", but clicking it does nothing.

you need to awaken the unconscious flaming fist in the groundfloor bedroom of the last light in.

to do this, you need to go to the hospital west on the map, kill the thorm or convince him to kill himself, take the LUTE off his body, then give it to the sleeping flaming fist, thats when the portal will open, defend the portal, then thaniel will be safe, and you can have halsin in your party

[EricHVela]

I've never tried this without Halsin in the active party. Does it work if he's not there?

The Narrator/DM and Halsin have always interjected something when Oliver's either finished being a sore winner or sore loser after Halsin rescued Thaniel. Then, the active character would get more dialog options.

Halsin must have rescued Thaniel if the quest is saying to find the other half.

If Halsin is in the party, submit a bug report and make sure to state how long ago it was when you paused on playing the game.

Be sure that no mods are or were installed. Even cosmetic mods can affect quests. "Mod Fixer" was found to break a lot of stuff after one of the hotfixes. It is included within several mods and forces a recompiling of scripts, which can cause issues with fixes to scripts from official patches.

[Lani]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

I've never tried this without Halsin in the active party. Does it work if he's not there?

You don't need Halsin to be in the party at any point for the quest.
You can have him join the party when he becomes available as companion and then have him take the lead in the final meeting between Oliver and Thaniel for an approval boost.
Or disapproval if you act confrontational towards Oliver yourself.

[Ironwu]

Originally posted by Ironmanfaf:

Picked back up my playthrough after months and my buddy is telling me I gotta get Oliver to reunite with Thaniel. Problem is I already had an interaction with Oliver way back when. Now he's just standing there. When I try to talk to him (or attack him) he just says "I won fair and square. There's no point in playing again. I want a challenge." and then the dialogue ends.

Am I missing something here? Apparently he's supposed to open a portal or something? None of that has happened. Halsin wont do anything either. Whenever i talk to him at camp, he just describes Thaniel to me. There is even a quest marker above Oliver that says "House of Flowers", but clicking it does nothing.

*Sigh* No, it is not a 'bug'.

Most likely what needs to be done is that the Halsin side of this dual path quest needs to be progressed. Do note that there are two 'portals' involved. One which Oliver eventually creates and a much bigger one (and a much bigger encounter) that Halsin creates.

Good Luck

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Nobody:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

You don't need to win at hide-and-seek, at all. In fact, you don't even need to encounter Oliver first.

This is the correct answer:

I've mentioned this because I had the same problem when not playing hide and seek first. After waking the harper and doing the portal quest, he would just bug out saying that he won, when we in fact never played. I don't know if I mucked up any other quest that might have something to do with that, since it was my first play through and did a lot of content between waking the harper and doing the portal with Halsin.

On my second one I played with him just to get the ring before even waking the harper, and had no issues speaking with Oliver to unite back with Thaniel.

Probably a mod issue.

[Mike Garrison]

I have always played both games of hide and seek first. You definitely don't have to win them, though,

[Mike Garrison]

Anyway, the basic steps are:

1) find Art in Last Light
2) hear him talk about Thaniel
3) tell Halsin about him (you can do that in camp, no need for Halsin to be in your party)
4) Halsin goes to Last Light
5) Talk to Halsin there, and find out that Art needs his lute
6) Go get the lute from Doc Thorm
7) Art wakes up; Halsin says follow me to the portal
8) Follow Halsin to the portal
9) Defend the portal
10) Find out Thaniel is missing half of his soul or whatever
11) Then go to Oliver