Lore Question

[pahrias]

So, at what point in the Lore of the World of Faerun, do D*ck Girls become a thing?
Genuine question. I personally think its just there for pandering, but if there is genuine ACTUAL DnD Lore as to why D*ck Girls would be a thing, then I am all ears.

Was there an event like a God of debauchery (like Pan for example) decided that it would be great if men could experience a female orgasm and vice versa? Or that women should experience the Joy of having a ♥♥♥♥? Was there some event in the lore like this, or am I just stretching? Because there is no reason given at any point in the game, from character creation to act 3, as top WHY that should even exist. There is no reason in nature, there is no reason in magic lore as far as I know.

Also, Futa is hetero-phobic. Its saying that yeah I like women but I am scared of p**sy. Gimme the booba but Ill keep the ♥♥♥♥.

[GriffinPilgrim]

There is a very good chance you're just trolling but gender fluidity is a thing in the real world and on Toril.
And no, futa is not heterophobic. Never been my thing but my preferences do not dictate to others. The existence of one thing is not an insult to something different.

[Iratus Machina]

Honestly, I have no clue. Either they're born with it or they magically change their genitals via some spell they learned from the Book of Vile Darkness. If neither of those, you could always just make your own head canon around the existence of ♥♥♥♥ girls.

[KRON]

You're overthinking it. It's a gameplay element that lets you create whatever character you can identify with. There may or may not be lore about it, but it's in the game purely for gameplay/roleplay purposes, nothing more.

[Iratus Machina]

And before anyone asks, yes. The Book of Vile Darkness is a legitimate DnD rulebook centered around making DnD more X-rated if you so wish. There's 3rd edition and 4rd edition releases, not sure about 5th edition yet though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Vile_Darkness

[pahrias]

Originally posted by KRON:

You're overthinking it. It's a gameplay element that lets you create whatever character you can identify with. There may or may not be lore about it, but it's in the game purely for gameplay/roleplay purposes, nothing more.

So, pandering? Well, that was what I suspected in the first place. Pity. I think having that explained would have helped in general. I have a need for things to make sense, yes, even in a video game. Well, yet another thing to be discarded and ignored.

[pahrias]

Originally posted by Iratus Machina:

And before anyone asks, yes. The Book of Vile Darkness is a legitimate DnD rulebook centered around making DnD more X-rated if you so wish. There's 3rd edition and 4rd edition releases, not sure about 5th edition yet though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Vile_Darkness

Ahh, now thats interesting. Ill have to have a read of that at some point. I am experimenting with starting up a Dnd group and that might actually give me some ideas.

[EricHVela]

If you don't want that in your games, BG3 lets you not have that.

That's the thing about Faerûn. Nobody needs anyone else's lore to justify their version of it.

There's a version where Thunder damage is Thor (Lightning) damage instead. The sky comes down at night and high altitudes at night are high risk of asphyxiation.

There's another where a pair of kings of an elven kingdom have a son who is their genetic heir.

Do they need to justify themselves to you?

Nope.

Is any of that in the campaigns I've managed? Nope. They don't need to justify their lore to me any more than I need to justify mine to them. Each table plays its own way, nobody makes demands of anyone else, and we all get along just fine.

Stop demanding other tables play your way. BG3 is Larian's table, and they give a lot of freedom to players. When players balk at the mere possibility of playing another way, those players come across as too sensitive to make their own choices, be happy with it, and ignore the rest.

[Woke Buster]

I won't be surprised if they will add the "God of Wokeness" in 6 edition.

[pahrias]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

If you don't want that in your games, BG3 lets you not have that.

That's the thing about Faerûn. Nobody needs anyone else's lore to justify their version of it.

There's a version where Thunder damage is Thor (Lightning) damage instead. The sky comes down at night and high altitudes at night are high risk of asphyxiation.

There's another where a pair of kings of an elven kingdom have a son who is their genetic heir.

Do they need to justify themselves to you?

Nope.

Is any of that in the campaigns I've managed? Nope. They don't need to justify their lore to me any more than I need to justify mine to them. Each table plays its own way, nobody makes demands of anyone else, and we all get along just fine.

Stop demanding other tables play your way. BG3 is Larian's table, and they give a lot of freedom to players. When players balk at the mere possibility of playing another way, those players come across as too sensitive to make their own choices, be happy with it, and ignore the rest.

I did not "demand" anything. I was asking for a lore reason, or any reason that isnt just straight up pandering, for their existence in faerun. Are they a thing, or is it head cannon, or table rule or whatever else you want to call it?

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by pahrias:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

There is a very good chance you're just trolling but gender fluidity is a thing in the real world and on Toril.
And no, futa is not heterophobic. Never been my thing but my preferences do not dictate to others. The existence of one thing is not an insult to something different.

Partial troll, but still want an answer.

And "gender fluidity" is not a thing on this world or any other. Not unless you can ACTUALLY change sex, like a frog. Are you a frog?

And yes Futa is hetero-phobic. Change my mind. Its basically saying "I like t*ts but too scared to be straight so ill slap a d*ck on it.

Gender is more than the equipment between your legs.
Obviously I'm unlikely to change your rather set mind but no, it is not heterophobic to like something that happens not to be cishet. I'm rather partial to green eyes, does this make me brown-eye-phobic?

[pahrias]

Originally posted by User-315-708:

I won't be surprised if they will add the "God of Wokeness" in 6 edition.

HAHA! Probably in some form, yeah. I doubt itll be called that specifically, more like The God of Inclusion, or Diversity, or Equity. Or maybe just God DEI, and be all three lol

[pahrias]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Originally posted by pahrias:

Partial troll, but still want an answer.

And "gender fluidity" is not a thing on this world or any other. Not unless you can ACTUALLY change sex, like a frog. Are you a frog?

And yes Futa is hetero-phobic. Change my mind. Its basically saying "I like t*ts but too scared to be straight so ill slap a d*ck on it.

Gender is more than the equipment between your legs.
Obviously I'm unlikely to change your rather set mind but no, it is not heterophobic to like something that happens not to be cishet. I'm rather partial to green eyes, does this make me brown-eye-phobic?

No, gender is not more that what is between your legs. It is a made up term to CREATE a difference so that can be used to push a political agenda. Started by John Money. Go look him up, then tell me that "gender" is a thing.

Also, using that term "cishet" precludes you already captured by this ideology. And if not liking something that isnt "cishet" is not hetero-phobia, then my not liking things that are gay is not homophobia, is it?

[KRON]

Originally posted by pahrias:

Originally posted by KRON:

You're overthinking it. It's a gameplay element that lets you create whatever character you can identify with. There may or may not be lore about it, but it's in the game purely for gameplay/roleplay purposes, nothing more.

So, pandering? Well, that was what I suspected in the first place. Pity. I think having that explained would have helped in general. I have a need for things to make sense, yes, even in a video game. Well, yet another thing to be discarded and ignored.

Not everything has to make sense in order to be fun. If a thing that you see once at the start of the game and you never think about after is a deal breaker for you, I don't know what to tell you.

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by pahrias:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Gender is more than the equipment between your legs.
Obviously I'm unlikely to change your rather set mind but no, it is not heterophobic to like something that happens not to be cishet. I'm rather partial to green eyes, does this make me brown-eye-phobic?

No, gender is not more that what is between your legs. It is a made up term to CREATE a difference so that can be used to push a political agenda. Started by John Money. Go look him up, then tell me that "gender" is a thing.

Yeah, trans and nonbinary people are just making it up, They put themselves through gender dysphoria and being constantly ♥♥♥♥ on by people like you just for funsies. Sure...

[Angry Obnoxious Goose]

Originally posted by pahrias:

Originally posted by Iratus Machina:

And before anyone asks, yes. The Book of Vile Darkness is a legitimate DnD rulebook centered around making DnD more X-rated if you so wish. There's 3rd edition and 4rd edition releases, not sure about 5th edition yet though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Vile_Darkness

Ahh, now thats interesting. Ill have to have a read of that at some point. I am experimenting with starting up a Dnd group and that might actually give me some ideas.

There's also any contact with the outer realm can cause some very freakish effects on mortal races and even gods that tries to leave the world spheres they are attached with.
Also magic... and any creature that can self-morph their body (A variant of Doppelgangers), anything Succubus/incubus related cuz 'takes the form of what their victim desires the most',

I will say tho, that people of any setting like D&D usually dun have the leisure and freedom of time and energy to spend on much more than daily survival/work to support a living. Just like we didn't really have all the whole gender-stuff back in the roman empire times, middle ages, etc. etc.
So in my personal opinion, it doesn't really fit WELL as a 'natural' part of D&D. Cyberpunk or Shadowrun? sure. Low-magic fantasy or high-magic fantasy? Not really - unless as mentioned about we talk some crazed wizard doing things with bodies and trying to fused them together frankenstein-style, or effects of the far/outer realms, magical disguise or shape-morphing, etc.