Can I long rest TOO much before going through the mountain pass?

[A_Pepperoni_Lass]

I wanted to do long rests to get through all of the camp stuff in Act1 (took me four rests) before moving on, but I don’t want it to mean stuff in act 2 like the INN play out without me.

Will the long rests affect anything badly right before leaving through the mountain pass or (other route)?

[Sir_Baldur]

No, but if you are playing a good aligned campaign - I find the story from when you leave Grymforge to be better. There is no penalty for traveling from Mountain pass back to the Underdark.

[A_Pepperoni_Lass]

Originally posted by Sir_Baldur:

No, but if you are playing a good aligned campaign - I find the story from when you leave Grymforge to be better. There is no penalty for traveling from Mountain pass back to the Underdark.

So I should do mountain pass first then underdark/grymforge?
And the amount of rests I do before going to the pass won’t effect anything!?

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by A_Pepperoni_Lass:

Originally posted by Sir_Baldur:

No, but if you are playing a good aligned campaign - I find the story from when you leave Grymforge to be better. There is no penalty for traveling from Mountain pass back to the Underdark.

So I should do mountain pass first then underdark/grymforge?
And the amount of rests I do before going to the pass won’t effect anything!?

Long resting only has effect on certain quests and as far as I know the only one in Act 1 is the burning inn (as in if you find a building on fire then go take a nap the fire won't wait for you). So rest all you wish. In fact rest a lot, because some plot lines only advance if you rest. You're fine as long as you don't actually enter Act 2.
As for the order I at least recommend doing the Underdark first up until the game warns you you're changing area, then do the mountain pass, then Grymforge. Doing the mountain pass first might leave you a little under leveled. But that's just my experience, I might have it wrong.
I would do both though; you'll miss out on companion quests otherwise.

[ahsanford]

My move is usually:

1) Do just about everything in the main opening area (perhaps holding off on the armored ‘people’ near the mountain pass entrance until you are L5+)

2) Do the biggest/main quest in the opening area: save or destroy the grove

3) Go to the Underdark and *completely* clean it out

4) Do the Grymforge and all quests there

5) Do the entire mountain pass area

6) Enter Act II through either of the Grym Forge / Mountain Pass ways.

You *could* swap 4 and 5 above if you are tired of being underground. I would not do mountain pass immediately after the main quest (#2 above), though. Better to level up in the Underdark before tackling the Mountain Pass.*

*If you are a veteran of the game, you can really do this in any order. It's all Act I. But there are two events in the Mountain Pass that are considerably harder than anything in the UD or Grym Forge. So I do the Mountain Pass last.

- A

[ahsanford]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Long resting only has effect on certain quests and as far as I know the only one in Act 1 is the burning inn

Not quite. There is another in Act I.

Upon arriving at the Grymforge, there is -- without spoiling it -- a large group event underway. Once you get to that place and learn what's happening, if you take too many long rests or fast travels (it's a small number, like 2 or something), the nature of the event changes quite a bit (and you can fail a specific quest).

So when you decide to go to the Grymforge, commit to it. Start well rested and hustle to see what the commotion is about.

- A

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by ahsanford:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Long resting only has effect on certain quests and as far as I know the only one in Act 1 is the burning inn

Not quite. There is another in Act I.

Upon arriving at the Grymforge, there is -- without spoiling it -- a large group event underway. Once you get to that place and learn what's happening, if you take too many long rests or fast travels (it's a small number, like 2 or something), the nature of the event changes quite a bit (and you can fail a specific quest).

So when you decide to go to the Grymforge, commit to it. Start well rested and hustle to see what the commotion is about.

- A

Right, yes, forgot about that. Thank you for reminding me and warning OP.

[A_Pepperoni_Lass]

I’m assuming if I start the mountain pass, I’m okay to go do the underdark instead if it’s too difficult?

This is technically my second play through, I restarted after starting Act 1 because I was locked out of a romance and didn’t realize it…

So I’d love to see some content I haven’t seen before as I didn’t even do the mountain pass in my first play through

[ahsanford]

Originally posted by A_Pepperoni_Lass:

I’m assuming if I start the mountain pass, I’m okay to go do the underdark instead if it’s too difficult?

This is technically my second play through, I restarted after starting Act 1 because I was locked out of a romance and didn’t realize it…

So I’d love to see some content I haven’t seen before as I didn’t even do the mountain pass in my first play through

You can do the mountain pass before the Underdark, but know that there are two events in it that are doozies IMHO. Not crazy impossible, but will be quite challenging if you are only (say) L5 or so.

I generally find the UD + Grymforge easier than the Mountain Pass's two hardest things to do, so I do UD + Grymforge first. But you do you. You can go to the Mountain pass and stumble into one of those two events and just say 'Nope', reload and just run the UD + Grymforge first.

- A

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by ahsanford:

Originally posted by A_Pepperoni_Lass:

I’m assuming if I start the mountain pass, I’m okay to go do the underdark instead if it’s too difficult?

This is technically my second play through, I restarted after starting Act 1 because I was locked out of a romance and didn’t realize it…

So I’d love to see some content I haven’t seen before as I didn’t even do the mountain pass in my first play through

You can do the mountain pass before the Underdark, but know that there are two events in it that are doozies IMHO. Not crazy impossible, but will be quite challenging if you are only (say) L5 or so.

I generally find the UD + Grymforge easier than the Mountain Pass's two hardest things to do, so I do UD + Grymforge first. But you do you. You can go to the Mountain pass and stumble into one of those two events and just say 'Nope', reload and just run the UD + Grymforge first.

- A

Except for the boss of Grymforge if, like me, one misses the obvious cheese for that fight...
I dum.

[Bella ✝]

Hello, OP. I trust I am arriving late to the party, as you have already concluded your thread as an answered topic, but I believe I might still be able to contribute, as no one has mentioned what I have to say yet.

So, the game features a number of quests and encounters that are somewhat 'time-sensitive'. There's a wonderfully crafted guide that will help you navigate through the game without triggering events that could significantly impact your playthrough without proper set-up – to avoid exactly the concerns you have. Most of this is actually common sense, such as a house burning down or my beloved Gale needing his magical touch, for example. You can clearly see that taking the day off would result in major consequences.

Honestly, you just have to pay attention to the 'triggers'.

Progressing to the next act will affect almost every unfinished quest. Do not proceed to the Shadow-Cursed Lands until you have completed everything possible in your current act. The same goes for taking too many long rests when triggering certain time-sensitive quests.

Regarding specifically the mountain pass, there is only one trigger and time-sensitive event I can remember, that being Lae'zel and her kin, the githyanki.

Trigger: Lae'zel confronts the githyanki.

Plot: Lae'zel will die if she has left the party to talk to the patrol and you do not join her.

Consequence: Lae'zel leaves the party.

How it occurs: Upon long resting/going to camp or by leaving the general area.

The guide I was referring to can be found here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3024365536

[DontMisunderstand]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Originally posted by ahsanford:

You can do the mountain pass before the Underdark, but know that there are two events in it that are doozies IMHO. Not crazy impossible, but will be quite challenging if you are only (say) L5 or so.

I generally find the UD + Grymforge easier than the Mountain Pass's two hardest things to do, so I do UD + Grymforge first. But you do you. You can go to the Mountain pass and stumble into one of those two events and just say 'Nope', reload and just run the UD + Grymforge first.

- A

Except for the boss of Grymforge if, like me, one misses the obvious cheese for that fight...
I dum.

Currently almost at the end of Act 2 and the hardest two fights in the game so far were both in Rosymorn.

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Except for the boss of Grymforge if, like me, one misses the obvious cheese for that fight...
I dum.

Currently almost at the end of Act 2 and the hardest two fights in the game so far were both in Rosymorn.

Agreed. Like I said, I missed the obvious in the Grymforge fight.

[DeMasked]

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Except for the boss of Grymforge if, like me, one misses the obvious cheese for that fight...
I dum.

Currently almost at the end of Act 2 and the hardest two fights in the game so far were both in Rosymorn.

Wait what fights? The one fight with the scary githyanki lady was a close call. The one with that boss you fight with the phantasmal blades on Honour Mode. Poor guy lost his weapon to Lae'zel and was just punching people lol.


edit: Going to camp after crashing in the ship has Shadowheart run off to the Druid's Camp.

Long Resting after seeing the 2 people near their dead tadpole'd leader will have them leave assuming for the Goblin Camp.

edit 2: Made my vague comments much more vague.

[ahsanford]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Except for the boss of Grymforge if, like me, one misses the obvious cheese for that fight...
I dum.

I don't know which boss you are referring to at the Grymforge map area (i.e. the entire map of GF) -- there are arguably two bosses.

But neither are (at all) as hard to deal with as the two hardest things you do in the Mountain Pass, IMHO. I'm with DontMisunderstand on this one.

- A

[ahsanford]

Originally posted by DeMasked:

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Currently almost at the end of Act 2 and the hardest two fights in the game so far were both in Rosymorn.

Wait what fights? The one fight with the -redacted-

FFS man -- spoilers. The OP doesn't know what's in the Mountain pass at all. Please block that with spoiler tags.

Edit -- thank you

- A