Experience bug?

[celldweller454]

Sorry if this has been asked. I went through a few page to look before I posted. For some reason I don't seem to be getting proper experience. Shadowheart is a level 8 while the rest of my group is at level 6. She's literally went from level 6 to 8 while all my other characters haven't gained a level at all. I tried ungrouping and then having them all join back up hoping that would fix the problem, something suggested on reddit while I was googling this problem. Any idea? Thank you in advance

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by celldweller454:

Experience bug?
Sorry if this has been asked. I went through a few page to look before I posted. For some reason I don't seem to be getting proper experience. Shadowheart is a level 8 while the rest of my group is at level 6. She's literally went from level 6 to 8 while all my other characters haven't gained a level at all. I tried ungrouping and then having them all join back up hoping that would fix the problem, something suggested on reddit while I was googling this problem. Any idea? Thank you in advance

Not enough information. Share screenshots to clarify what you mean.

[Ironwu]

* Using any Mods?

* Any of the non-Shadowheart characters multi-classed?

* Ever have Shadowheart out in the world by herself?

[Mojo]

Is Shadowheart higher level than you are? Only reason why I ask is because all you invite to your group auto level or gain xp up to your amount of XP. So may want Shadowheart to sit out a bit till you hit level 8, then you can get all others up to lvl 8 as well.

Edit; Had to fix some typos, working with an injured finger so my typing is worse than normal lol .

[celldweller454]

Originally posted by Ironwu:

* Using any Mods?

* Any of the non-Shadowheart characters multi-classed?

* Ever have Shadowheart out in the world by herself?

Thanks for the reply!

The mods I'm using are

party limit be gone
carry weight to 9000
tav's hairpack
script extender
improved ui
achievement enabler

Those I've been using since around level 3, I think.

No, so far all of them are not multi-classed.

No, I've not had her out in the world alone. I kep them all in a group as much as possible.

[celldweller454]

Originally posted by Mojo:

Is Shadowheart higher level than you are? Only reason why I ask is because all you invite to your group auto level or gain xp up to your amount of XP. So may want Shadowheart to sit out a bit till you hit level 8, then you can get all others up to lvl 8 as well.

Edit; Had to fix some typos, working with an injured finger so my typing is worse than normal lol .

Yes she is. She's level 8 while all my other characters (myself included) are at level 6.

I'll try sitting her out and hope that fixes the issue. Thanks!

[Ironwu]

Originally posted by celldweller454:

Originally posted by Ironwu:

* Using any Mods?

* Any of the non-Shadowheart characters multi-classed?

* Ever have Shadowheart out in the world by herself?

Thanks for the reply!

The mods I'm using are

party limit be gone
carry weight to 9000
tav's hairpack
script extender
improved ui
achievement enabler

Those I've been using since around level 3, I think.

No, so far all of them are not multi-classed.

No, I've not had her out in the world alone. I kep them all in a group as much as possible.

Ok. This is almost guaranteed to be a Mods issue. Not much can be done other to try and disable them and see if that restores the balance. May not work though if the actual numbers have been changed and subsequently are part of the Saves. :(

[celldweller454]

Originally posted by Ironwu:

Originally posted by celldweller454:

Thanks for the reply!

The mods I'm using are

party limit be gone
carry weight to 9000
tav's hairpack
script extender
improved ui
achievement enabler

Those I've been using since around level 3, I think.

No, so far all of them are not multi-classed.

No, I've not had her out in the world alone. I kep them all in a group as much as possible.

Ok. This is almost guaranteed to be a Mods issue. Not much can be done other to try and disable them and see if that restores the balance. May not work though if the actual numbers have been changed and subsequently are part of the Saves. :(

Worth a try. Thanks you!

[northernwater]

If you are using mods and you see bugs immediately assume the mods are the cause.

[Simbolic]

Only way that is possible is getting alot of inspiration from her. Without getting any from the others, since those give exclusive XP to members. Would check your character relationship levels. Towards bottom of there stats page. See if everyone is neutral while hers isn't. If so that would be it but not sure how you were able to do it.
Would have had to use all the wrong characters at all times besides Shadowheart. During dialogue and events that give them exclusive individual XP and you a inspiration point.

[celldweller454]

Originally posted by northernwater:

If you are using mods and you see bugs immediately assume the mods are the cause.

Solid advice. I probably should have thought to test it before I even posted but it didn't even cross my mind because I had already been using them for a few levels.

[celldweller454]

Originally posted by Simbolic:

Only way that is possible is getting alot of inspiration from her. Without getting any from the others, since those give exclusive XP to members. Would check your character relationship levels. Towards bottom of there stats page. See if everyone is neutral while hers isn't. If so that would be it but not sure how you were able to do it.
Would have had to use all the wrong characters at all times besides Shadowheart. During dialogue and events that give them exclusive individual XP and you a inspiration point.

Highly possible with me! I was so confused the first few levels I'm surprised my characters have even lived :P

I went through and checked my approval rating, it's about 3/4 of the way through (very good) with Shadowheart, Gale, and Wyll.

Lae-zel - Fair

Astarion, Karlach - Neutral

[Lani]

I'm suspecting the "party limit be gone" to be the culprit here.
It wins the "Most likely to mess up XP in some way" award hands down in that selection.
Unfortunately thoroughly and completely removing a mod won't always clear up the 'damage' it's done to a savegame so I'm hoping it's Shadowheart being overpowered and not the rest of your team lagging behind the content's CR.

[celldweller454]

Originally posted by Lani:

I'm suspecting the "party limit be gone" to be the culprit here.
It wins the "Most likely to mess up XP in some way" award hands down in that selection.
Unfortunately thoroughly and completely removing a mod won't always clear up the 'damage' it's done to a savegame so I'm hoping it's Shadowheart being overpowered and not the rest of your team lagging behind the content's CR.

That would be my luck. I read through quite a few posts on nexus mods and didn't see anyone mention XP issues. I found the mod to begin with as a recommendation from several gaming websites I was reading to try to get a better idea on how to install mods. I'm going to play the game later tonight and see if it's fixed now that I've uninstalled some mods, if not, that one will have to go as well.

I removed all the other mods (other than party limit begone) and booted it up. I did get a message saying that with the mod disabled the game may not be stable. So I did a quick save and quit the game. Restarted and no longer had the message.

[Simbolic]

Yeah sounds like a mod issue, the one to increase level cap is about the worse one to use. If using that one virtually any bug could occur.

[seeker1]

Originally posted by celldweller454:

That would be my luck. I read through quite a few posts on nexus mods and didn't see anyone mention XP issues.

Yeah, I use Party Limit Begone and I've never seen any.

OTOH, I ALSO use Unlock Level Curve and XP Progression mods. And I HAVE seen weird little things where one char will level SLIGHTLY earlier than the others, but it's never a very big gap, like one char is suddenly 2 levels ahead of the others. Now that I think about it, that stuff might even be happening because of Inspirations.

My other ULC pet peeve: when you hit Level 20, it pastes a "Maximum Level Reached" message over your XP bar. I'm like, gee thanks, I f**king knew that already. But it's just an annoyance. Also, oddly, sometimes Tav doesn't level as fast as everybody else for some weird reason - except as soon as I save & reload, everybody's caught up. (Actually took me a while to figure this out.)