Finding Nightsong?

[biggsy29]

I know there been many discussions about this but I’m still not sure!
Is finding her in Act 2 or 3, got to the part where Shadowheart preys to Shar, found spear etc but not Nightsong. Have I missed her somewhere, When I go to proceed I get a warning box asking me if I sure because quests may be lost, is this the start of Act 3 ?
I thought you needed Nightsong to clear Moonrise Towers quests before proceeding to Act 3. Help appreciated, thanks

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by biggsy29:

Finding Nightsong?
I know there been many discussions about this but I’m still not sure!
Is finding her in Act 2 or 3, got to the part where Shadowheart preys to Shar, found spear etc but not Nightsong. Have I missed her somewhere, When I go to proceed I get a warning box asking me if I sure because quests may be lost, is this the start of Act 3 ?
I thought you needed Nightsong to clear Moonrise Towers quests before proceeding to Act 3. Help appreciated, thanks

The warning is right before you find Nightsong.

[KRON]

This the beginning of the start of Act 3, aka a point of no return in Act 2. You find Nightsong past that point.

[biggsy29]

So what quests do you lose, haven’t found the Duke yet ?

[Tax evasion]

What quests do you lose, with regards to what ? Unraveling the Nightsong quest ?
Once you go past the aforementionned "point of no return", Act 2 concludes, as does the landscape. You will lose access to Act 1 completely, and most of the quests in Act 2 (especially the ones in Moonrise Towers).
The Duke is an Act 3 quest.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by biggsy29:

So what quests do you lose, haven’t found the Duke yet ?

Any alternative routes to finding the Nightsong and quests which involves locations at Moonrise Towers. Duke Ravengard will not be accessible before finding the Nightsong. He is one of the three you cannot find before that.

[KRON]

Originally posted by biggsy29:

So what quests do you lose, haven’t found the Duke yet ?

That happens after you find the Nightsong.

[biggsy29]

So is fighting the big boss with Nightsong Act 3?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by biggsy29:

So is fighting the big boss with Nightsong Act 3?

No. It is still Act 2. You could consider it Act 2 Part II. Act 3 starts once you enter Rivington, the area before Wyrms Crossing to Baldur's Gate.

[biggsy29]

So , if I understand this you continue past warning box to get Nightsong , but you can still go back to Moonrise Towers to complete battle?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by biggsy29:

So , if I understand this you continue past warning box to get Nightsong , but you can still go back to Moonrise Towers to complete battle?

Let us start from a more convenient point: the Gauntlet of Shar is the last station of Act 2 which is followed by the final encounter at Moonrise Tower.

Before that you are to explore the Shadow-Cursed Lands for two objectives

a) find out the weakness of Ketheric Thorm

b) resolve the Shadow Curse (optional)

Without spoilers ~ if you have to meet someone at Moonrise Tower, as quick as possible, you should do it before venturing forth.

If you have exhausted all exploration, then only moving onward is your choice.

Any opportunities at Moonrise Tower, which requires the people there to be alive, are foregone. Same for the Last Light Inn should you have missed that location.

Other quests which are not related are not affected by my experiences.

[biggsy29]

So the final encounter in Moonrise Tower comes in Act 3, you don’t have to travel back to it in Act 2 for the battle, ?

[KRON]

Originally posted by biggsy29:

So the final encounter in Moonrise Tower comes in Act 3, you don’t have to travel back to it in Act 2 for the battle, ?

Act 3 starts when you leave the Shadow Cursed Lands to Baldur's Gate itself.

[darkbird1000]

Hmm I havn't reached act 2 yet but I thought you already have nightsong in your posession

[Brian_the_Brute]

The game moves the goalposts with finding the Duke to ACT 3. You don't have to lift the curse to get to ACT 3 (the city) but I do think you have to defeat Kethric to get there.

[Lani]

The most commonly quest that fails is the Resolve the Shadow Curse one.
That's the quest with Halsin and the spirit of the land. While it's optional, failing it does have consequences for your relationship with Halsin.

You don't actually start Act-3 until after you've left the Shadowlands
I'm not sure why people are calling the post-finding of Nightsong as Act-3. i think it comes from everyone bending backwards to provide non-spoiler info.

Let's say that ACT-2 has it's own internal three act arc and finding Nightsong triggers the third act of ACT-2. Honestly it works better to think of the ACTs as maps or installments of a trilogy than story acts given the pacing issues. God I miss five act stories!