Hope's +4 shield?

[nightwalker83137]

Hi,

Is Hope's +4 shield (house of hope) the best AC shield in the game or is there a better one? I have just finished the House of Hope on Honour mode but let Hope live and was not able to obtain her shield.

Thanks,


Aaron

[eRe4s3r]

Best in the game by far

[Steffan]

Why does she have such a good gear... I mean... it does not make sense to kill her after you went through so much trouble saving her.

[nightwalker83137]

Originally posted by steffan8:

Why does she have such a good gear... I mean... it does not make sense to kill her after you went through so much trouble saving her.

Yeah, you can not even pickpocket her afterwards.

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What? she has a +4 shield ??? how do u get it from her ?

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by eRe4s3r:

Best in the game by far

Not "by far", the next best one (in terms of AC) is +3.

Originally posted by steffan8:

Why does she have such a good gear... I mean... it does not make sense to kill her after you went through so much trouble saving her.

The devs buffed her up a bit, if I'm not mistaken, because she kept dying.

[Lynchden]

You can do non lethal attacks to get it and if you leave and come back she isn’t hostile. She also drops it if she dies in the fight with Raphael.

[Gaslov]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by eRe4s3r:

Best in the game by far

Not "by far", the next best one (in terms of AC) is +3.

Originally posted by steffan8:

Why does she have such a good gear... I mean... it does not make sense to kill her after you went through so much trouble saving her.

The devs buffed her up a bit, if I'm not mistaken, because she kept dying.

They should do the same for the idiot in last light inn. That girl dies in one turn if she fails her save against paralyze and the consequences for her death are massive.

[ahsanford]

So it's a +2 shield, i.e. a +4 benefit to your AC? Nothing else?

Nice, but not the best IMHO.

The shield the House of Grief boss drops is ridiculously tanky -- +3 AC, advantage on saves vs. spells (i.e. all spells, not just ones that target a specific stat) plus warding bond plus reflective shell plus a damage dealing/proning shield bash.

If I had a choice between a vanilla +2 shield and a +1 shield with all the toppings like the above, I'd take the latter 10 times out of 10.

- A

[mike_hanna211]

Originally posted by ahsanford:

damage dealing/proning shield bash.

Does the shield bash actually knock people prone? I've had 2 shields on my main character and Shadowheart since Act 2. I've not been able to knock even ONE enemy combatant down with a bash.

So, it's technically a useless ability as far as I can tell.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by mike_hanna211:

Originally posted by ahsanford:

damage dealing/proning shield bash.

Does the shield bash actually knock people prone? I've had 2 shields on my main character and Shadowheart since Act 2. I've not been able to knock even ONE enemy combatant down with a bash.

So, it's technically a useless ability as far as I can tell.

Yes. It's happened to me many times.

[Metrod125]

Originally posted by mike_hanna211:

Originally posted by ahsanford:

damage dealing/proning shield bash.

Does the shield bash actually knock people prone? I've had 2 shields on my main character and Shadowheart since Act 2. I've not been able to knock even ONE enemy combatant down with a bash.

So, it's technically a useless ability as far as I can tell.

It and many other shields with the shield bash feature were able to do that, and in some patch or hotfix, Larian broke it and still haven't fixed it.
The projectile reflect works, and warding bond works fine to keep a companion safer, but the knockdown feature has been broken for a while.

[ahsanford]

Knockdown is cheap nice to have but it has been broken for a bit.

Still, the other things on that shield from House of Grief are terrific.

- A

[Mojo]

Originally posted by mike_hanna211:

Originally posted by ahsanford:

damage dealing/proning shield bash.

Does the shield bash actually knock people prone? I've had 2 shields on my main character and Shadowheart since Act 2. I've not been able to knock even ONE enemy combatant down with a bash.

So, it's technically a useless ability as far as I can tell.

Shield Bash has been broken for a while.. plenty of topics if you can wade far enough through all the bs topics on the forums :)

[mike_hanna211]

Originally posted by ahsanford:

Knockdown is cheap nice to have but it has been broken for a bit.

Still, the other things on that shield from House of Grief are terrific.

- A

Agreed, I just recently acquired that shield and gave it to Shadowheart (take THAT Viconia!). But I was more concerned with the bashing function. Sounds like such a great ability for front line melee combatants.

[nightwalker83137]

Originally posted by Lynchden:

You can do non lethal attacks to get it and if you leave and come back she isn’t hostile. She also drops it if she dies in the fight with Raphael.

The problem with that is she always re-heals after each attack.