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Marcus Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:25pm
Raid th Grove or not? SPOILERS PERMITTED
I am doing an evil playthrough, should I raid the grove or not?

1- I want Minthara as a companion, can I get her only by raiding or is opposite possible?
2- Will I lose lots of item oppurtinities if I raid?
3- Will there be exp difference if I raid?
4- If I decide to raid the grove, should I assassianate some of grove-dwellers before raiding?
5- Internet says Wyll and Karlach will leave If I raid, is there a way for them to not or is there anything I should to before the raid to get max efficiency from their questlines?
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Tax evasion Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:28pm 
1. Yes, AFAIK you need to raid the grove to have Minthara
2. Yes, the evil playthrough locks you out of arguably the best NPC, Dammon, and other opportunities that snowball into act 2.
3. Don't think so, never tested
4. If you start attacking the grove, it will implode as the druids will start killing the refugees.
5. There was some sort of exploit, where you kill Karlach and Wyll, raid the grove, and resurrect them afterwards, so that they technically didn't witness it. Might be patched, no clue.
RhiTheWitch Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:28pm 
If you raid the grove you will permanently lose both Wyll, Karlach and Halsin and will never be able to do their quest lines to any form of completion. There's ways to get Minthara on a good playthrough and are several threads in the forum on how to get her this way.
You will miss out on a lot of dialogue and loot if you raid the grove bc the tieflings show back up later in your story line (unless you kill em ofc)
アンジェル Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by Flerion:
Raid th Grove or not? SPOILERS PERMITTED
I am doing an evil playthrough, should I raid the grove or not?

1- I want Minthara as a companion, can I get her only by raiding or is opposite possible?
2- Will I lose lots of item oppurtinities if I raid?
3- Will there be exp difference if I raid?
4- If I decide to raid the grove, should I assassianate some of grove-dwellers before raiding?
5- Internet says Wyll and Karlach will leave If I raid, is there a way for them to not or is there anything I should to before the raid to get max efficiency from their questlines?

If you want Minthara without using the loophole: raid the grove
The loophole:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3110543554

Yes, you will lose too many opportunities, making it not summa summarum not worthwhile in the long term.

No significant experience differences whether you raid or not.

The grove dwellers are too weak to bother "assassinating them first". What you could and should do is snatch one of those druids "crowns" which allow you entrance when they close -> one way to do so, Nettie.

Nothing you can do about those two. It is normally either them and Halsin, or Minthara.
seeker1 Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by Tax evasion:
1. Yes, AFAIK you need to raid the grove to have Minthara

Not anymore, not since Patch 5. You could always get her pre-Patch 5 with mods and exploits. Post-Patch 5, there is a legit method for getting her without raiding the grove, though I think many people are finding it ... overcomplicated.
アンジェル Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:34pm 
Originally posted by seeker1:
Originally posted by Tax evasion:
1. Yes, AFAIK you need to raid the grove to have Minthara

Not anymore, not since Patch 5. You could always get her pre-Patch 5 with mods and exploits. Post-Patch 5, there is a legit method for getting her without raiding the grove, though I think many people are finding it ... overcomplicated.

It is, and I would not say it is "legit".
More like a tolerated bug left behind due to popular demand and circumstances.

After all: when you play the game for the first time and so on, the only chance to unlock her that way is by chance when you play an entirely non-lethal run and do Halsin's quest in one swift swoop.
Xan Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:39pm 
Just knock minthara unconscious in the goblin camp "before" killing Dror Ragzlin and "without" making her aggressive via dialogue (i.e., just walk up to her and start smacking her while she's talking to that goblin) and you can recruit her later without having to massacre the grove.

You can also recruit Wyll and Karlach this way without any weird stuff.

This wasn't possible until recently (patch 5).
Marcus Jan 31, 2024 @ 12:59pm 
Do you guys also know, do I need to wait till act 2 if I choose to raid the grove in order to recruit Minthara or can I immediatly afterwards?
seeker1 Jan 31, 2024 @ 1:14pm 
It's a non spoiler at this point. Unfortunately, even if you do it all right .. you won't find out or know until you get to Thorm's throne room at Moonrise Towers.

If you did it right, she will be on trial there for incompetence. There's more steps for acquisition, but obviously it starts with convincing the folks there she should not be executed.
Last edited by seeker1; Jan 31, 2024 @ 1:14pm
votadc Jan 31, 2024 @ 1:43pm 
You lose Arabella, Mol and Zevlor as allies in final battle.
You lose the boots with +1 armor sold by Matt.
You lose the armor that halves physical damage from Dammon and you lose the armored owlbear.
You lose the potent robe (if you are Durge you lose It anyway)
You get also less tadpoles.

You can do most of the quest: you won't see Mizora anymore but you can still save the Duke. Karlach quest Is just about talking with engineers, she has funny reaction with Gorthas, the big miss Is not having Halsin and not being able to lift the curse.

Funny thing Is that content wise Minthara gives ZERO quests. That means that raiding the grove and helping goblins Is worse than just murderhoboing EVERYONE......you will get more loot and tadpoles if you murder anything.
Kamuizin Jan 31, 2024 @ 2:05pm 
Originally posted by Flerion:
I am doing an evil playthrough, should I raid the grove or not?

1- I want Minthara as a companion, can I get her only by raiding or is opposite possible?
2- Will I lose lots of item oppurtinities if I raid?
3- Will there be exp difference if I raid?
4- If I decide to raid the grove, should I assassianate some of grove-dwellers before raiding?
5- Internet says Wyll and Karlach will leave If I raid, is there a way for them to not or is there anything I should to before the raid to get max efficiency from their questlines?

1 - You can get her without raiding the grove.
2 - Yes, potent robe from Alfira and all Dammon sellable items, among others.
3 - Yes, all Tiefling quests.
4 - don’t know, never did.
5 - You can kill Karlach in Wyll’s quest and sacrifice him to BOAAL. Don’t know if there’s any other way to quest kill companions.
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