Baldur's Gate 3

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lungcao100 Jan 30, 2024 @ 11:29pm
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Toxic Femininity
I can no longer stay silent about the insidious infiltration of toxic femininity in Baldur's Gate 3. It seems the designers have unleashed an unrelenting army of overempowered, overachieving, and downright intimidating female NPCs upon us, turning the game into a predictable woke parade.

I couldn't help but notice the endless amounts of girl bosses with powers that defy reason. It's as if the designers dipped their quills in a well of feminist hyperbole and scrawled every cliché in the book. These characters exhibit traits of toxic femininity that are not just irritating but downright harmful to the gaming experience.

The overabundance of these powerful "women" has created a sense of monotony that rivals watching paint dry. Every encounter feels like a rerun of the previous one, with a seemingly infinite supply of indomitable female characters ready to showcase their prowess. It's like a never-ending loop of predictable girl power moments that leave you longing for a bit of diversity in character dynamics.

This undermines the very essence of challenge and accomplishment in the game. Where's the thrill in overcoming obstacles when every antagonist you face is an all-conquering femme fatale? It's as if the designers believe empowerment can only be achieved by diminishing the strength and agency of male characters, perpetuating a skewed and harmful view of gender dynamics.

They've also made every male NPC except for maybe Halsin, a helpless damsel in distress, as if to suggest that men are incapable of handling adversity. This blatant role reversal does nothing but perpetuate stereotypes and further entrench the toxic notion that one gender is superior to the other.

I am not even going to begin to touch on the myriad of sexually ambiguous LGBTQ+ characters that constantly hit on the player relentlessly. That's a topic for another day.
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His Divine Shadow Feb 2, 2024 @ 12:21pm 
I only dream about living in some fantasy world similar to earth where my SO (random guy) is having an orgy with a possessed drug dealer in a never ending party and I end up riding a bike down by a crazy ocean and have a stroke (actual dream I had last night, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wild)
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Plz dont feint Feb 2, 2024 @ 12:34pm 
Originally posted by Adam__86:
Originally posted by Scratch:

Because most people prefer to buy fully released game? It is to be expected that when a game is fully release, sales goes up?

And they didn't modify the trailers didn't they?

So why do you think so many thread in the forums are about these immersion breaking and agenda issues?

You mean the handful of threads by the same people? If it was a issue the game wouldn't be 96% positive - Fact is only a handful of questionable individuals cry about it

I'm sure most people agree that the companions are unrealistically horny toward TAV and that the bear scene is a joke.

A lot of people got into the romance arc with Gale without expecting it too.
A lot of people found act3 disconnected from the rest of the game.
A lot of people got annoyed by the sheer amount of sexual positivity.
A lot of people got annoyed by Aylin super entitled personality.
A lot of people got annoyed by all the lore discrepency between BG2 and BG3 and what they did to my girl Viconia.
A lot of people got annoyed by what they did with Sarevock, he wanted to steal his father godhood, not became his puppet.
and etc......

And then I tell myself, nah it got 96% score. Its all good.

Found an game breaking bug in act3? Nope the game has 96% score.
New patch just broke all my savefiles? Nope, 96%.
Moonlight Knight Feb 2, 2024 @ 12:38pm 
I can agree that Sarevok might have been done dirty, but doesn't Viconia end up dead if you romance her and change her alignment?
Plz dont feint Feb 2, 2024 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
I can agree that Sarevok might have been done dirty, but doesn't Viconia end up dead if you romance her and change her alignment?

Yes, she get killed by Lolth assassins I believe.

But Im sure you can agree that after all that Viconia have been through, its weird to see her being just a normal evil character with no dept in BG3.

Viconia's backstory is in total contradiction to what she became in BG3.......

WOTC fault too, not Larian's.
Maybe they just wanted to end the lore butchery of my drow girlfriend once and for all :(
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DrZann Feb 2, 2024 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by Scratch:
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
I can agree that Sarevok might have been done dirty, but doesn't Viconia end up dead if you romance her and change her alignment?

Yes, she get killed by Lolth assassins I believe.

But Im sure you can agree that after all that Viconia have been through, its weird to see her being just a normal evil character with no dept in BG3.

Viconia's backstory is in total contradiction to what she became in BG3.......

WOTC fault too, not Larian's.
I let the Flaming Fist kill her in BG1. Good riddance to evil trash. But her appearance in BG3 was totally appropriate.
Aerohank Feb 2, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by Scratch:
Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:
I can agree that Sarevok might have been done dirty, but doesn't Viconia end up dead if you romance her and change her alignment?

Yes, she get killed by Lolth assassins I believe.

But Im sure you can agree that after all that Viconia have been through, its weird to see her being just a normal evil character with no dept in BG3.

Viconia's backstory is in total contradiction to what she became in BG3.......

WOTC fault too, not Larian's.
Maybe they just wanted to end the lore butchery of my drow girlfriend once and for all :(

Viconias backstory fits perfectly with what she became in BG3. She was literally already a Shar worshipper in BG1 / 2.
Plz dont feint Feb 2, 2024 @ 1:11pm 
Originally posted by DrZann:
Originally posted by Scratch:

Yes, she get killed by Lolth assassins I believe.

But Im sure you can agree that after all that Viconia have been through, its weird to see her being just a normal evil character with no dept in BG3.

Viconia's backstory is in total contradiction to what she became in BG3.......

WOTC fault too, not Larian's.
I let the Flaming Fist kill her in BG1. Good riddance to evil trash. But her appearance in BG3 was totally appropriate.

Evil trash? She literally have a complex redemption arc that fit her character evolution but okay.....
DrZann Feb 2, 2024 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by Scratch:
Originally posted by DrZann:
I let the Flaming Fist kill her in BG1. Good riddance to evil trash. But her appearance in BG3 was totally appropriate.

Evil trash? She literally have a complex redemption arc that fit her character evolution but okay.....
That completely depends on your personal game.
Plz dont feint Feb 2, 2024 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Aerohank:
Originally posted by Scratch:

Yes, she get killed by Lolth assassins I believe.

But Im sure you can agree that after all that Viconia have been through, its weird to see her being just a normal evil character with no dept in BG3.

Viconia's backstory is in total contradiction to what she became in BG3.......

WOTC fault too, not Larian's.
Maybe they just wanted to end the lore butchery of my drow girlfriend once and for all :(

Viconias backstory fits perfectly with what she became in BG3. She was literally already a Shar worshipper in BG1 / 2.

"Viconia was born to House DeVir in the drow capital city of Menzoberranzan in Underdark. She was a priestess of Lolth for many years. To prove her faith she was tasked with killing an infant in a ritual sacrifice to the Spider Queen. Viconia refused and her house fell out of Lolth's favour."

Her story after that is basically her trying to flee from Lolth assassins and survive the multiples Witch Hunt parties because people on the surface see Drows as top public ennemy #1 to burn on the stake without trial. All she wanted in the end was to live a peaceful life. She never was evil, just brainwashed and broken.

Oh but now she is doing even worse in the name of Shar and she become the very thing she was trying to run away from....
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seeker1 Feb 2, 2024 @ 1:20pm 
That she could have had a redemption arc in BG2/ToB is one of many possible canon endings for the series.

In many peoples' games, it's entirely possible she never underwent one ... which would indeed fit where you find her in BG3. (Barring her death, but then maybe she could have been resurrected.)
Plz dont feint Feb 2, 2024 @ 1:23pm 
Originally posted by seeker1:
That she could have had a redemption arc in BG2/ToB is one of many possible canon endings for the series.

In many peoples' games, it's entirely possible she never underwent one ... which would indeed fit where you find her in BG3. (Barring her death, but then maybe she could have been resurrected.)

Maybe..... its just that they took the worse possible cannon story and the least interesting one and made it the official one. They did her dirty, in my opinion.
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DrZann Feb 2, 2024 @ 1:24pm 
Originally posted by Scratch:
Her story after that is basically her trying to flee from Lolth assassins and survive the multiples Witch Hunt parties because people on the surface see Drows as top public ennemy #1 to burn on the stake without trial. All she wanted in the end was to live a peaceful life. She never was evil, just brainwashed and broken.
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Don't fall for her con. Neutral Evil is Neutral Evil.
Plz dont feint Feb 2, 2024 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by DrZann:
Originally posted by Scratch:
Her story after that is basically her trying to flee from Lolth assassins and survive the multiples Witch Hunt parties because people on the surface see Drows as top public ennemy #1 to burn on the stake without trial. All she wanted in the end was to live a peaceful life. She never was evil, just brainwashed and broken.
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Don't fall for her con. Neutral Evil is Neutral Evil.

"If you keep her through ToB, in her ending, she can actually team up with Drizzit and seemingly change her alignment (if memory serves, by romancing her, you actually CAN change her alignment)"

She is much more complex than just an typical evil character. She doesn't kill out of pleasure, but for survival and revenge. She also was raised by a cult of Lolth Drow....
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Dragon Master Feb 2, 2024 @ 3:34pm 
Originally posted by Scratch:
Originally posted by DrZann:
Don't fall for her con. Neutral Evil is Neutral Evil.

"If you keep her through ToB, in her ending, she can actually team up with Drizzit and seemingly change her alignment (if memory serves, by romancing her, you actually CAN change her alignment)"

She is much more complex than just an typical evil character. She doesn't kill out of pleasure, but for survival and revenge. She also was raised by a cult of Lolth Drow....

Heck ya!
Peeratat Feb 3, 2024 @ 1:30am 
Originally posted by FRISH:
Originally posted by Giganx:
Eh, the "right" restroom for a trans man is the mens room.

The point is that there are situations where public safety and biology should be taken into higher consideration than preserving an individuals personal image.

If I'm a man who believes he's a woman there's only a certain threshold to where the world should accommodate that. That threshold should end in situations where I'm engaging in physical activities against biological women, or invading their safe spaces.
A trans man is a biological woman who identifies as a man. The funny thing is that without the activism from the left, this would be less of a minefield and less people would care.
You can’t say that lol
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