[TRUTH] The Heterosexual Seal of Approval

[Riitoken]

This OP is an attempt to define the exclusive nature of heterosexuals within a modern video game.

I ask that you participate in this discussion in a non-inflammatory manner.

Yes, the BG3 bisexual world can pride itself on providing NPCs willing to have sex with anybody. For this, the woke proudly wave the INCLUSIVE flag. Yes, they do. Some refer to this modern gaming feature as Player Sexual - which is the idea of pretending to be compatible with all players - regardless of their preferences. Without a doubt this culture prides itself on INCLUSIVITY which is a DEI mantra.

They simulate a bisexual world - and many think this is a nirvana situation that makes everybody happy - including heterosexuals.

But that is delusion where heteros are concerned because you can't get the hetero seal of approval without also simulating the sexual EXCLUSIVITY of hetero culture. And BG3 does not simulate that exclusivity anywhere.

When any hetero player complains, the woke crowd will gaslight and tell the hetero player to be less biased which is their way of telling the hetero - "We prefer it if you'd join our bisexual religion."

BG3 is designed for non-heteros first and foremost, plain and simple. The previous sentence can be falsified.

To get the Hetero Seal of Approval a game would need to do all of the following:

• Provide a Hetero checkbox on character creation to indicate hetero exclusivity.
  
• Conduct the AI dialog text such that same-sex NPCs never FLIRT or offer FLIRT dialog text to hetero players.
  
• Provide at least one opposite sex hetero NPC.

BG3 does none of these things because it is biased in favor of the bisexual narrative which is heavily biased against the hetero exclusive narrative. Facts.

I am NOT singling out BG3 by any means. No no. BG3 is certainly not the only recent game that does such. SF is definitely non-hetero centric.

Having said this, BG3 and SF have one very particular behavior in common. Both games simulate NPCs that can and will initiate sexual advances towards the same-sex player character. Both games present NPC text dialog with unsolicited flirting options. This is a new level of non-hetero behavior compared to previous games.

Thus, BG3 and SF get the bisexual seal of approval but not the Hetero Seal of Approval.

Bisexuals are 75% inclusive and 25% exclusive.
Homosexuals are 37% inclusive and 63% exclusive.
Heterosexuals are 30% inclusive and 70% exclusive.
Asexuals are 0% inclusive and 100% exclusive.

Edit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3144743006

[Cassidy0z]

引用自 The_Dipl0mat：

引用自 Cassidy0z：

I'm not sure why people use examples that are always the exception to argue on. It's weird.

Is she not part of the general public?

Does she represent the majority of situations where people are holding conversations?

[Cassidy0z]

引用自 THIS GAME ⁧⁧SUCKS：

1. Just because straight people self-identify as straight, and no one else does, doesn't mean we should use that label for them. Science proves the right word is "cis." "Cis" is way easier to pronounce than "straight" too!

2. PLEASE STOP ERASING PANSEXUALS. All companions are PAN, not BI
-Philip

Hah. At least someone who is humorous.

[The_Dipl0mat]

引用自 Cassidy0z：

引用自 The_Dipl0mat：

Is she not part of the general public?

Does she represent the majority of situations where people are holding conversations?

Considering the topics she uses cis in, I'd say so yeah. Most other people I know when talking about gender and sexuality specifically also use cis as a term

[Moonlight Knight]

引用自 Cassidy0z：

引用自 Moonlight Knight：

The word not being used in common everyday speech very often =/= the word having no value at all

People having everyday conversations in public settings aka how the world speaks in person is > any given word used in for any other purpose accept when outside of that situation of people conversing. In those settings what matters in the context of communication is what is being said and how it is said.
So if someone says straight as a means to identify someone non-LGBT when pointing to someone when such a conversation comes up everyone around them knows what they mean. It happens all the time in my spaces.

We're not in public, if you haven't noticed. This whole thread of conversation you're attempting is a distraction.

[Ka-mai19]

引用自 Cassidy0z：

You're not knowledgeable enough to have this discussion being that you don't seem to understand the difference around how normal public conversation works vs. a conversation in a forum.

Elaborate, then. I feel I was pretty clear about the difference between speaking about things generally in the public vs. discussing sexual orientation and identity within a video game forum.

I'll also add that if people talk about trans/transgender people in the public chances are high that they'll use cis/cisgender as well. Both sets of terms are interconnected, after all.

I've already watched you get outclassed by others here so I think I'll respond to people who can at least stand on common sense.

Pretty weak deflection/non-answer.

[Cassidy0z]

引用自 Moonlight Knight：

引用自 Cassidy0z：

People having everyday conversations in public settings aka how the world speaks in person is > any given word used in for any other purpose accept when outside of that situation of people conversing. In those settings what matters in the context of communication is what is being said and how it is said.
So if someone says straight as a means to identify someone non-LGBT when pointing to someone when such a conversation comes up everyone around them knows what they mean. It happens all the time in my spaces.

We're not in public, if you haven't noticed. This whole thread of conversation you're attempting is a distraction.

Why are you trying to deter the conversation unless you just don't have the ability to stand on the original topic. Goal post move is what you would call this no?
We have been discussing the public. My initial response brings up the public. This makes you the distraction.

[Aeriar]

引用自 Moonlight Knight：

引用自 Cassidy0z：

People having everyday conversations in public settings aka how the world speaks in person is > any given word used in for any other purpose accept when outside of that situation of people conversing. In those settings what matters in the context of communication is what is being said and how it is said.
So if someone says straight as a means to identify someone non-LGBT when pointing to someone when such a conversation comes up everyone around them knows what they mean. It happens all the time in my spaces.

We're not in public, if you haven't noticed. This whole thread of conversation you're attempting is a distraction.

Also I've seen the term cis used quite often in places that I consider public, like Twitter. I don't hear it in my everyday life, because Engish is not my first language, so it doesn't make sense to use it. But in English I consider it a pretty common descriptor. (Although I don't even know how this topic occured here, because this thread started to be too long to keep up with it...)

[The_Dipl0mat]

引用自 Ka-mai19：

I'll also add that if people talk about trans/transgender people in the public chances are high that they'll use cis/cisgender as well. Both terms are interconnected, after all.

Yeah, those are the conversations I hear it used in irl

[Cassidy0z]

引用自 Ka-mai19：

引用自 Cassidy0z：

You're not knowledgeable enough to have this discussion being that you don't seem to understand the difference around how normal public conversation works vs. a conversation in a forum.

Elaborate, then. I feel I was pretty clear about the difference between speaking about things generally in the public vs. discussing sexual orientation and identity within a video game forum.

I'll also add that if people talk about trans/transgender people in the public chances are high that they'll use cis/cisgender as well. Both terms are interconnected, after all.

I've already watched you get outclassed by others here so I think I'll respond to people who can at least stand on common sense.

Pretty weak deflection/non-answer.

My answer is clear it doesn't matter what you think it is. We are talking about the use of cis in a public conversation. Either discuss that or don't.

[Moonlight Knight]

引用自 Cassidy0z：

引用自 Moonlight Knight：

We're not in public, if you haven't noticed. This whole thread of conversation you're attempting is a distraction.

Why are you trying to deter the conversation unless you just don't have the ability to stand on the original topic. Goal post move is what you would call this no?
We have been discussing the public. My initial response brings up the public. This makes you the distraction.

I'm not trying to deter the conversation, you are. We're not talking about public conversations, we're talking about, sadly, culture war BS. Your initial response brought up public conversations only to condemn the people commenting here as basement-dwellers and dismiss the concept of 'cis' as a word out-of-hand.

[THIS GAME ⁧⁧SUCKS]

引用自 Riitoken：

In this classic, well-acted, hetero scene, with whom do you identify?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj7sYdMEKec

Wow... I'm enby, but I identify with the fat guy in this scene. I had an ex-gf who always bugged me about keeping the house tidy Babe let me game

Anyways, I had to break up with her because I needed stitches after she threw a plate at me.
-Philip

[Cassidy0z]

引用自 The_Dipl0mat：

引用自 Ka-mai19：

I'll also add that if people talk about trans/transgender people in the public chances are high that they'll use cis/cisgender as well. Both terms are interconnected, after all.

Yeah, those are the conversations I hear it used in irl

I'm afraid that I'd have to say you are not being honest. I can't directly call you a liar as that is a bit harsh but I know from my own spaces, experiences, all the people within my sphere of hanging out with friends and their friends, etc. that this does not come up ever.
You should do a poll in fact as I'd bet my life we would find out quite quickly that this term is not used in public settings and that most people would refer to people non-LGBT as straight.

[Moonlight Knight]

引用自 Cassidy0z：

引用自 The_Dipl0mat：

Yeah, those are the conversations I hear it used in irl

I'm afraid that I'd have to say you are not being honest. I can't directly call you a liar as that is a bit harsh but I know from my own spaces, experiences, all the people within my sphere of hanging out with friends and their friends, etc. that this does not come up ever.
You should do a poll in fact as I'd bet my life we would find out quite quickly that this term is not used in public settings and that most people would refer to people non-LGBT as straight.

Your experiences are not universal.

[The_Dipl0mat]

引用自 Cassidy0z：

引用自 The_Dipl0mat：

Yeah, those are the conversations I hear it used in irl

I'm afraid that I'd have to say you are not being honest. I can't directly call you a liar as that is a bit harsh but I know from my own spaces, experiences, all the people within my sphere of hanging out with friends and their friends, etc. that this does not come up ever.
You should do a poll in fact as I'd bet my life we would find out quite quickly that this term is not used in public settings and that most people would refer to people non-LGBT as straight.

I do quite enjoy how you ignore the part where I replied to the

引用自 Ka-mai19：

I'll also add that if people talk about trans/transgender people in the public chances are high that they'll use cis/cisgender as well. Both terms are interconnected, after all.

Tidbit. Bolded it for you as well.

It wouldn't make sense outside those conversations, just like how talking about football moves or whatever the ♥♥♥♥ they do doesn't make sense to talk about at the book club

[Aeriar]

引用自 Cassidy0z：

引用自 The_Dipl0mat：

Yeah, those are the conversations I hear it used in irl

I'm afraid that I'd have to say you are not being honest. I can't directly call you a liar as that is a bit harsh but I know from my own spaces, experiences, all the people within my sphere of hanging out with friends and their friends, etc. that this does not come up ever.
You should do a poll in fact as I'd bet my life we would find out quite quickly that this term is not used in public settings and that most people would refer to people non-LGBT as straight.

I guess you move in different circles. Because most people I know and would talk about personal stuff like this differentiate between sexuality and gender. So they would use straight for heterosexual, but not for description of gender.