Astarion advantage question

[nub]

How do you get the advantage to use the abilities.

[Ericus1]

Generally, use your bonus action to hide first.

[nub]

Oh so you have to be undetected to use those abilities?

[Spiral90]

There are several ways to gain advantage. Knocking them prone, attacking while invisible or from hiding, or even having multiple allies around the same enemy to name a few. And be sure Astarion doesn't have disadvantage too, like trying to range attack from too far away or being surrounded by multiple enemies.

[Ericus1]

No, you have to have "advantage". There are numerous ways to gain advantage, which Spiral90 listed quite a few. By far the most frequent way for rogues is simply to use your free bonus action to hide.

[Cartesian Duelist]

https://5thsrd.org/rules/advantage_and_disadvantage/

[yahboi1988]

You don't even need advantage if you have an ally adjacent to the target.

[Izuzul]

If you are looking to hide for advantage, hold the shift key first. It will show you the enemy line of sight.

[nub]

I tried being in a situation where I'm not detected but Astarion still didn't have advantage on the enemy. What did I do wrong?

[Govi]

Hard to say

Was it ranged or melee?

[seeker1]

As always, a very decent resource for understanding exactly how certain things are handled in the game (vs. how they are described in source material -- can be different).

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Advantage

[Govi]

If melee is it a finesse weapon?

[jonnin]

the most consistent way to get advantage for sneak attack is to send someone else in first: an enemy fighting someone else can be SA by the rogue. Sneaking wastes your attacks with the offhand, so try to avoid that. Simple pets like a hunter pet, familiar, or shovel can be used for this, if your team is busy.

[Malistair]

Originally posted by nub:

How do you get the advantage to use the abilities.

Easiest way is to get shovel, have him go invisible and always park him right next to your target. That triggers "threatened" which gives you advantage.

[Cartesian Duelist]

Originally posted by Malistair:

That triggers "threatened" which gives you advantage.

No it doesn't. Threatened lets you use sneak attack, but it doesn't give advantage. Specifically, the target needs to be threatened by someone else in your party.

[nub]

Maybe it's the weapon reason for me not able to do an advantage attack?