Overly Progressive

[lungcao100]

I noticed that in the BG3 community, there's a noticeable change which is causing some concern. What was once an escape for immersive roleplaying is now crowded with characters challenging traditional gender roles. Romance options are limitless, regardless of gender or orientation, prompting reflection on the direction of gaming.

Admired characters embodying courage and virtue have given way to those grappling with moral ambiguity and questioning "gender identity." Interactions with overpowering female figures defy traditional femininity, got me raising questions about realism and intention.

I can help but notice the consistent push for gender fluidity, showcased in characters like the druid, which doesn't resonate with most of the silent majority within gaming community. The worry is whether a 'woke' agenda is overshadowing engaging gameplay and meaningful storytelling.

Most of us argue it's time to voice support for cherished games, beloved characters, and the values that have defined gaming greatness for generations. It's time to gaming great again.

I am open to having my mind changed.

[PatrioticPole84]

GR8 B8 M8

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

You jsut NOW noticed that? It's been going on for months my man.

[Ryzilynt]

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Unfortunately in RPG's even in indie games these days they have been making companions player sexual for years now, its not really a new thing.

It was better of course when bro's could just be bro's and you didn't have to worry about men hitting on your male character or females hitting on your female character but times have changed there.

Yeah, without any agenda. Without any misconception. People are people. People are human. Some people may be different than you. They may have different interests, they may have different hobbies, they may have a different god. Some may even say their favorite color is yellow.

Point is, treat your fellow people of this earth with the respect they deserve.

They are you.

[MrPeery]

Aeriar lähetti viestin:

This guy again. He managed to remove "bear sex quest" or "bear sex encounters" or how he called it, but the rest of his bull***t remained almost the same.

Doesn’t make any of the points less valid. The bear stuff is legit in the game by the way.

[Pyromaiden]

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This guy again. He managed to remove "bear sex quest" or "bear sex encounters" or how he called it, but the rest of his bull***t remained almost the same.

Doesn’t make any of the points less valid. The bear stuff is legit in the game by the way.

you're right, it doesn't make his points less valid as they were never valid to begin with

[Moonlight Knight]

MrPeery lähetti viestin:

Aeriar lähetti viestin:

This guy again. He managed to remove "bear sex quest" or "bear sex encounters" or how he called it, but the rest of his bull***t remained almost the same.

Doesn’t make any of the points less valid. The bear stuff is legit in the game by the way.

It's a visual pun.

Halsin is a 'bear', and in the moment, he lost control of himself.

Taking it literally is just asking to get pointed and laughed at. Fantasy is about exploring the human psyche and condition through the allegory of fantastic elements. Not everything should be taken at face value.

[ivandrago654]

Moonlight Knight lähetti viestin:

MrPeery lähetti viestin:

Doesn’t make any of the points less valid. The bear stuff is legit in the game by the way.

It's a visual pun.

Halsin is a 'bear', and in the moment, he lost control of himself.

Taking it literally is just asking to get pointed and laughed at. Fantasy is about exploring the human psyche and condition through the allegory of fantastic elements. Not everything should be taken at face value.

He doesn't "lose control of himself", the player literally requests it and he's barely fazed. He's like "oh, are you sure? It's pretty large and vigorous." implying he's done this ♥♥♥♥ before, then the player says they like that sort of thing and they get on with. Then they shoehorn the squirrel in to be like "oh, it's only a meta-joke, please ignore how serious that whole thing was before and after the squirrel."

I have no idea why anybody would try make this deep or profound, it's the same character that fondly reminisces about his years as a Drow sex slave. Larian just has a few degenerate writers with paraphillias, it's no deeper than that.

[Moonlight Knight]

ivandrago654 lähetti viestin:

Moonlight Knight lähetti viestin:

It's a visual pun.

Halsin is a 'bear', and in the moment, he lost control of himself.

Taking it literally is just asking to get pointed and laughed at. Fantasy is about exploring the human psyche and condition through the allegory of fantastic elements. Not everything should be taken at face value.

He doesn't "lose control of himself", the player literally requests it and he's barely fazed. He's like "oh, are you sure? It's pretty large and vigorous." implying he's done this ♥♥♥♥ before, then the player says they like that sort of thing and they get on with. Then they shoehorn the squirrel in to be like "oh, it's only a meta-joke, please ignore how serious that whole thing was before and after the squirrel."

I have no idea why anybody would try make this deep or profound, it's the same character that fondly reminisces about his years as a Drow sex slave. Larian just has a few degenerate writers with paraphillias, it's no deeper than that.

I didn't say it was deep, I said it was a pun.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Moonlight Knight lähetti viestin:

ivandrago654 lähetti viestin:

He doesn't "lose control of himself", the player literally requests it and he's barely fazed. He's like "oh, are you sure? It's pretty large and vigorous." implying he's done this ♥♥♥♥ before, then the player says they like that sort of thing and they get on with. Then they shoehorn the squirrel in to be like "oh, it's only a meta-joke, please ignore how serious that whole thing was before and after the squirrel."

I have no idea why anybody would try make this deep or profound, it's the same character that fondly reminisces about his years as a Drow sex slave. Larian just has a few degenerate writers with paraphillias, it's no deeper than that.

I didn't say it was deep, I said it was a pun.

I mean, Halsin was pretty deep...

[ivandrago654]

Moonlight Knight lähetti viestin:

ivandrago654 lähetti viestin:

He doesn't "lose control of himself", the player literally requests it and he's barely fazed. He's like "oh, are you sure? It's pretty large and vigorous." implying he's done this ♥♥♥♥ before, then the player says they like that sort of thing and they get on with. Then they shoehorn the squirrel in to be like "oh, it's only a meta-joke, please ignore how serious that whole thing was before and after the squirrel."

I have no idea why anybody would try make this deep or profound, it's the same character that fondly reminisces about his years as a Drow sex slave. Larian just has a few degenerate writers with paraphillias, it's no deeper than that.

I didn't say it was deep, I said it was a pun.

The bit about the "human psyche and condition through allegory" certainly implied it. Truth is it was just a horny weirdo writer getting his paraphillia out on the page then hedging his bets with a sight gag. Same thing they do every time something deviant pops up, like the ogre or bugbear, or the necrophillia. There's only so many times you can say "only kidding" after doing something grim before it becomes obvious you're serious.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

The_Dipl0mat lähetti viestin:

Moonlight Knight lähetti viestin:

I didn't say it was deep, I said it was a pun.

I mean, Halsin was pretty deep...

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[The_Dipl0mat]

KingOfFriedChicken lähetti viestin:

The_Dipl0mat lähetti viestin:

I mean, Halsin was pretty deep...

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[Moonlight Knight]

ivandrago654 lähetti viestin:

The bit about the "human psyche and condition through allegory" certainly implied it. Truth is it was just a horny weirdo writer getting his paraphillia out on the page then hedging his bets with a sight gag. Same thing they do every time something deviant pops up, like the ogre or bugbear, or the necrophillia. There's only so many times you can say "only kidding" after doing something grim before it becomes obvious you're serious.

Idk the ogre and bugbear situation definitely didn't strike me as something that was meant to be titillating.

I'll admit I was going off what someone else told me wrt the Halsin scene because I have no sexual interest in Halsin so I never had any reason to do that scene even when my computer was functional enough to handle this game, but if you're not living in America, a culture where sex is NC-17 but horrific gore is PG-13, I'd argue most people can understand that sex is actually pretty funny.

[ivandrago654]

Moonlight Knight lähetti viestin:

ivandrago654 lähetti viestin:

The bit about the "human psyche and condition through allegory" certainly implied it. Truth is it was just a horny weirdo writer getting his paraphillia out on the page then hedging his bets with a sight gag. Same thing they do every time something deviant pops up, like the ogre or bugbear, or the necrophillia. There's only so many times you can say "only kidding" after doing something grim before it becomes obvious you're serious.

Idk the ogre and bugbear situation definitely didn't strike me as something that was meant to be titillating.

I'll admit I was going off what someone else told me wrt the Halsin scene because I have no sexual interest in Halsin so I never had any reason to do that scene even when my computer was functional enough to handle this game, but if you're not living in America, a culture where sex is NC-17 but horrific gore is PG-13, I'd argue most people can understand that sex is actually pretty funny.

Sex with animals definitely isn't funny.

I'm fairly sure it was Baudelaire Welch who shoehorned most of this bestiality crap in. Her initial plan for the bad Dark Urge ending was literally you wandering around "rutting" with all the "beasts of the land" to produce another Bhaalspawn. I guess they cut that because there was no way to spin it as another "joke".

[Moonlight Knight]

ivandrago654 lähetti viestin:

Moonlight Knight lähetti viestin:

Idk the ogre and bugbear situation definitely didn't strike me as something that was meant to be titillating.

I'll admit I was going off what someone else told me wrt the Halsin scene because I have no sexual interest in Halsin so I never had any reason to do that scene even when my computer was functional enough to handle this game, but if you're not living in America, a culture where sex is NC-17 but horrific gore is PG-13, I'd argue most people can understand that sex is actually pretty funny.

Sex with animals definitely isn't funny.

I'm fairly sure it was Baudelaire Welch who shoehorned most of this bestiality crap in. Her initial plan for the bad Dark Urge ending was literally you wandering around "rutting" with all the "beasts of the land" to produce another Bhaalspawn. I guess they cut that because there was no way to spin it as another "joke".

Did you actually read the script for that ending? That definitely wasn't for titillation. That was for horror.