Does Larian hate straight men?

[Jen Blue(She/They/Hers)]

keep it civil

[XGear]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Originally posted by XGear:

To be honest, you didn't prove anything to me, all you did was claim that just because Jahreira is Straight, the game is not LGBT, which is a false and illusory statement, when in reality the entire game, characters and lore, is based on relationships from LGBT culture.
Not even the Octopus Alien was spared, and you can have a "Gale Night of Magic" with him.

So you admit that a character is straight but still claim the "the entire game, characters and lore, is based on relationships from LGBT culture." You realise one straight character already disproves that, right?
But since you need more: Dammon, Komira, Locke, Bex, Danis, Baelen Bonecloak, Derryth Bonecloak and Mayrina, all explicitly straight, all without even leaving Act 1.

Now count all the LGBT characters and tell me who has clear dominance in the game. From character creation, where you have physical features on the male genitalia but not on the female chest, all the Companions who are clearly LGBT.
Most of the heroes are all female and Bi sexual, there are no male and brave heroes, or leaders. Clearly a big salad of Woke and LGBT with a minimalist percentage of Straight content. This game clearly focuses on the LGBT community, and there's nothing wrong with that, and that's what the developers wanted to do, but declaring this game as a Straight work is madness.

[hannahrr]

I'm straight, married, and am trying to get my female Tav into the pants of every female I can find. Still bummed that I had to kill Shadowheart.

[Adam__86]

Originally posted by XGear:

Originally posted by Adam__86:

The proof is the majority of npcs are straight

They arent. Did they do physicals on male genitalia while female characters didn't? Isn't this a clear characteristic that the game was oriented to provide more convenience to the LGBT audience than straight players?

I literally almost PMSL

[Adam__86]

Originally posted by XGear:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

So you admit that a character is straight but still claim the "the entire game, characters and lore, is based on relationships from LGBT culture." You realise one straight character already disproves that, right?
But since you need more: Dammon, Komira, Locke, Bex, Danis, Baelen Bonecloak, Derryth Bonecloak and Mayrina, all explicitly straight, all without even leaving Act 1.

Now count all the LGBT characters and tell me who has clear dominance in the game. From character creation, where you have physical features on the male genitalia but not on the female chest, all the Companions who are clearly LGBT.
Most of the heroes are all female and Bi sexual, there are no male and brave heroes, or leaders. Clearly a big salad of Woke and LGBT with a minimalist percentage of Straight content. This game clearly focuses on the LGBT community, and there's nothing wrong with that, and that's what the developers wanted to do, but declaring this game as a Straight work is madness.

Maybe play the game

[Banelord]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Jaheira - dead husband - doesn't count.
Zoomin Toobin - dead wife - doesn't count.
Gale - got it on with a GODDESS, people - but relationship is over - doesn't count.

Can we keep the Emperor out of this? I think he is just omnidouchebag.

I love these shifting goalposts. Apparently, if your spouse dies, you become gay. Even if you have kids, (LOL)

Well, when you put it like that, it does raise an eyebrow, doesnt it?

These dead spouses DO count, but in a different way than you expected.

It almost seems like theres a subtle narrative being spun here, that hetero relationships are a thing of the past, relegated to backstory and memory. Not saying its a deliberate theme, but you cant help but notice a pattern. Maybe its just a coincidence, or maybe there's a deeper message being implied. Interesting how narratives shift and evolve.

[Altimely]

Originally posted by FRISH:

Originally posted by Altimely:

The real mental gymnastics are your projections. Again: Musk claimed he wanted twitter to be a free speech absolutist haven, and then banned or hid tweets from people who openly criticized him, and fired employees who noted that Musk was literally speaking gibberish and pretending like he knew how twitter functioned.

Twitter before musk wasn't trying to be that. They had no rhetorical obligation to be that, and you're creating a false equivocation between what the private platformed censored and what Musk censors.

But hey, keep licking Musk's boot.

Would you like to point out what comment I made that was licking his boot?

Implying that calling out his hypocrisy and shady censorship is "excessive criticism"

[Altimely]

Originally posted by Banelord:

Originally posted by seeker1:

Jaheira - dead husband - doesn't count.
Zoomin Toobin - dead wife - doesn't count.
Gale - got it on with a GODDESS, people - but relationship is over - doesn't count.

Can we keep the Emperor out of this? I think he is just omnidouchebag.

I love these shifting goalposts. Apparently, if your spouse dies, you become gay. Even if you have kids, (LOL)

Well, when you put it like that, it does raise an eyebrow, doesnt it?

These dead spouses DO count, but in a different way than you expected.

It almost seems like theres a subtle narrative being spun here, that hetero relationships are a thing of the past, relegated to backstory and memory. Not saying its a deliberate theme, but you cant help but notice a pattern. Maybe its just a coincidence, or maybe there's a deeper message being implied. Interesting how narratives shift and evolve.

I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not.

[XGear]

The game presents itself as a work of LGBT entertainment, some try to say that it is a straight work but its not true.
Anyone who played the game knows, all the Heroes Npcs, the customizations, the traveling companions, the city of Baldurs gate, everything revolves around LGBT culture. Absolutely zero percentage of Straight content.

[seeker1]

Originally posted by XGear:

From character creation, where you have physical features on the male genitalia but not on the female chest, all the Companions who are clearly LGBT.

Ah yes, ♥♥♥♥ physics, no boob physics, SOLID PROOF of LGBT agenda! (LOL)

Most of the heroes are all female and Bi sexual, there are no male and brave heroes, or leaders.

Wow, and with that declaration Kevlor ceased to exist, what about Orpheus, and Minsc (look he may be stupid but he's plenty brave), let alone Halsin (but yes, I know, bi bear seks) ....

[seeker1]

Originally posted by Banelord:

Maybe its just a coincidence, or maybe there's a deeper message being implied.

Yep. Totally: it's a dangerous world, and your spouse can die.

Once again, Jaheira's husband DIED IN BG2 twenty years ago. Is (2000 era) Bioware part of this conspiracy along with Larian?

Even James Bond married once, in one of the early movies, then the bad guys killed his wife, and he never married ever again, even if he shags 1-2 ladies each film.

[XGear]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Originally posted by XGear:

From character creation, where you have physical features on the male genitalia but not on the female chest, all the Companions who are clearly LGBT.

Ah yes, ♥♥♥♥ physics, no boob physics, SOLID PROOF of LGBT agenda! (LOL)

Most of the heroes are all female and Bi sexual, there are no male and brave heroes, or leaders.

Wow, and with that declaration Kevlor ceased to exist, what about Orpheus, and Minsc (look he may be stupid but he's plenty brave), let alone Halsin (but yes, I know, bi bear seks) ....

So tell me Mr.Wiseman, why no boob physic and yet males have it on their Mr. Dingles? Why? Enlight us with your wisdom.

And you confirmed when talked about Halsim, that freak shouldnt even be considered a hero, real, change into a bear to "bum da dum" humans is disgusting...

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by XGear:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

So you admit that a character is straight but still claim the "the entire game, characters and lore, is based on relationships from LGBT culture." You realise one straight character already disproves that, right?
But since you need more: Dammon, Komira, Locke, Bex, Danis, Baelen Bonecloak, Derryth Bonecloak and Mayrina, all explicitly straight, all without even leaving Act 1.

Now count all the LGBT characters and tell me who has clear dominance in the game. From character creation, where you have physical features on the male genitalia but not on the female chest, all the Companions who are clearly LGBT.
Most of the heroes are all female and Bi sexual, there are no male and brave heroes, or leaders. Clearly a big salad of Woke and LGBT with a minimalist percentage of Straight content. This game clearly focuses on the LGBT community, and there's nothing wrong with that, and that's what the developers wanted to do, but declaring this game as a Straight work is madness.

Ah, more goalpost moving. Before it was all of the characters are LGBT, now it's just which "has clear dominance!"
So that was 8 confirmed straight characters in Act One in the first post. I also forgot Elminster, Connor and the gnome with a daughter so that's 11. There's the two lesbian gnomes. We have 8 bi characters in Act 1, all the companions. Everyone else's sexuality is never referenced. So straight up by three over bi, tone over LGBT in general. Act 2 we have two confirmed gay people, Isobel and Aylin. We also have two confirmed straight people, Jaheira and Kethric. Again, all others not confirmed so the lead for straight remains the same. In Act 3 we have Oskar, Jannath, Oskar's ex and Karlach's old friend, all straight, remaining characters unconfirmed. Do the maths, you'll that puts straight a ways ahead.
Again, what the hell do floppy ♥♥♥♥♥ have to do with LGBT?
Nobody is declaring the work purely straight, we're just contesting the idea it is only catering the LGBT (as if the number of straight players enjoying it were not enough for that)

[iTemperence]

Originally posted by XGear:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

So you admit that a character is straight but still claim the "the entire game, characters and lore, is based on relationships from LGBT culture." You realise one straight character already disproves that, right?
But since you need more: Dammon, Komira, Locke, Bex, Danis, Baelen Bonecloak, Derryth Bonecloak and Mayrina, all explicitly straight, all without even leaving Act 1.

Now count all the LGBT characters and tell me who has clear dominance in the game. From character creation, where you have physical features on the male genitalia but not on the female chest, all the Companions who are clearly LGBT.
Most of the heroes ar e all female and Bi sexual, there are no male and brave heroes, or leaders. Clearly a big salad of Woke and LGBT with a minimalist percentage of Straight content. This game clearly focuses on the LGBT community, and there's nothing wrong with that, and that's what the developers wanted to do, but declaring this game as a Straight work is madness.

I agree that it interesting that there are so many options for male physical features and yet none really for female features, but I chalked that up to acknowledging that a large percentage of males are pretty obsessed with their own equipment.

There's a pretty even spread between male and female heroes - For every Jaheira there is also a Minsc (and a Boo!), for example, and as far as I can tell, they are both considered exclusively het.

I can't really believe this is even still a topic. I thought we got past this stuff back in DAII.

I don't consider any of the companions to be specifically bi, they just aren't gated for some arbitrary reason from my fantasy pursuit. Folks, *that's a good thing* - that means we don't have a bunch of straight guys angry they can't pursue one of the female companions, for example. Does that also mean you might have an experience with Halsin approaching you that you might not be interested in? That's the trade off - and be glad that the worst experience you have with unwanted advances is some fantasy pixels in a video game. Many of us have had to deal with that in real life, in situations that could (and have) become very dangerous in an instant. For the whole of human history.

It still absolutely baffles me that in a universe where we have green aliens flying though portals on red dragons shooting down blue brain eating aliens on tentacle ships, the single biggest concern is the realism of same-gender attraction.

It's like you literally never picked up a book and read about the Drow or something, like this is all brand spanking new.

Y'all new to the Forgotten Realms or something?

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Originally posted by XGear:

Now count all the LGBT characters and tell me who has clear dominance in the game. From character creation, where you have physical features on the male genitalia but not on the female chest, all the Companions who are clearly LGBT.
Most of the heroes are all female and Bi sexual, there are no male and brave heroes, or leaders. Clearly a big salad of Woke and LGBT with a minimalist percentage of Straight content. This game clearly focuses on the LGBT community, and there's nothing wrong with that, and that's what the developers wanted to do, but declaring this game as a Straight work is madness.

Ah, more goalpost moving. Before it was all of the characters are LGBT, now it's just which "has clear dominance!"
So that was 8 confirmed straight characters in Act One in the first post. I also forgot Elminster, Connor and the gnome with a daughter so that's 11. There's the two lesbian gnomes. We have 8 bi characters in Act 1, all the companions. Everyone else's sexuality is never referenced. So straight up by three over bi, tone over LGBT in general. Act 2 we have two confirmed gay people, Isobel and Aylin. We also have two confirmed straight people, Jaheira and Kethric. Again, all others not confirmed so the lead for straight remains the same. In Act 3 we have Oskar, Jannath, Oskar's ex and Karlach's old friend, all straight, remaining characters unconfirmed. Do the maths, you'll that puts straight a ways ahead.
Again, what the hell do floppy ♥♥♥♥♥ have to do with LGBT?
Nobody is declaring the work purely straight, we're just contesting the idea it is only catering the LGBT (as if the number of straight players enjoying it were not enough for that)

Oh, I forgot Mystra! She's straight too. Add another one to Act 3.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by iTemperence:

Originally posted by XGear:

Now count all the LGBT characters and tell me who has clear dominance in the game. From character creation, where you have physical features on the male genitalia but not on the female chest, all the Companions who are clearly LGBT.
Most of the heroes ar e all female and Bi sexual, there are no male and brave heroes, or leaders. Clearly a big salad of Woke and LGBT with a minimalist percentage of Straight content. This game clearly focuses on the LGBT community, and there's nothing wrong with that, and that's what the developers wanted to do, but declaring this game as a Straight work is madness.

I agree that it interesting that there are so many options for male physical features and yet none really for female features, but I chalked that up to acknowledging that a large percentage of males are pretty obsessed with their own equipment.

Honestly, I chalked it up to just being too weird to simulate. Penis jiggle is a fair bit easier as you just have some wiggly tubes going on. For breasts? Thats a bit harder to do in a way that feels natural