There isn't a reasonable Swords Bard + Phelar Aluve combo :(

[Kraythax]

Since Phelar Aluve, an obvious weapon for a bard, is a versatile weapon it doesnt qualify for the Dualist fighting style. To go two weapon fighting you would need to expend a valuable feat to dual wield weapons that aren't "light". In addition, expending a bonus action on a second weapon seems annoying. Seems to be a bit of a miss by Larian. The sword really screams "bard" (literally) and yet its not good for bard.

Suggestion: Change Dualist so that it can respect versatile weapons.

[Mosey]

You sure duelist doesn't work with a shield? Used to.

[Frost]

Originally posted by Kraythax:

Since Phelar Aluve, an obvious weapon for a bard, is a versatile weapon it doesnt qualify for the Dualist fighting style. To go two weapon fighting you would need to expend a valuable feat to dual wield weapons that aren't "light". In addition, expending a bonus action on a second weapon seems annoying. Seems to be a bit of a miss by Larian. The sword really screams "bard" (literally) and yet its not good for bard.

Suggestion: Change Dualist so that it can respect versatile weapons.

This is false. Duelling does work with versatile weapons, or at least it works with longswords. I've personally used it, just slap a shield on with it and you will get the extra 2 damage.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Mosey:

You sure duelist doesn't work with a shield? Used to.

Duelist works with shield. But it does not work with versatile weapons.

[Frost]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Mosey:

You sure duelist doesn't work with a shield? Used to.

Duelist works with shield. But it does not work with versatile weapons.

False.

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Duelling

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Frost:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Duelist works with shield. But it does not work with versatile weapons.

False.

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Duelling

You are only linking proof which confirms my statement.

[Frost]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Frost:

False.

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Duelling

You are only linking proof which confirms my statement.

Originally posted by アンジェル:

But it does not work with versatile weapons.

Notes
Also works with versatile weapons (despite the description stating otherwise), as long as you only wield the versatile weapon in one hand.
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Duelling

[Banelord]

Phalar is made for Bard for sure, but not as in a duelist in any circumstance. It is meant for support cleric/bard combo mainly for its sing ability, to boost other companions attack.

[Teskal]

The problem is, that you cannot use two-handed weapons for duelling. I think if you have nothing in your other hand, you are using this longsword automatically as a two-handed weapon.

Is it possible to see in the results, if the +2 dmg was used or not? Because from the description of duelling, it would be also not possible to use a rapier for duelling, because it is versatile.

[northernwater]

Originally posted by Kraythax:

To go two weapon fighting you would need to expend a valuable feat to dual wield weapons that aren't "light".

Choices with consequences is good game design. It is bad game design to allow a sequence of choices which do not have a down side.

[cookie]

lol my bard holds it with a shield ...... but uses spells and a bow in combat ....

[The Yeen Queen]

Originally posted by Kraythax:

Since Phelar Aluve, an obvious weapon for a bard, is a versatile weapon it doesnt qualify for the Dualist fighting style. To go two weapon fighting you would need to expend a valuable feat to dual wield weapons that aren't "light".

It DOES work with versatile weapons as long as you're holding a shield so the weapon is equipped 1-handed. That being said, it may require expending a feat to dual wield it, but that feat is a pretty damn good feat if you want to dual wield because it has other benefits.