Fedup of these mega-download

[omalinur]

Anyone like me who is fed up of these mega-download. Not everyone lives in Europe or USA and get a good network. It seems these developers have lost the notion of INCREMENTAL update. Whether Baldur Gate 3 or No Man's Sky or whatever, one has to download hundreds of Gb every month.
The situation: I have managed to play 5 min of BG3 since I downloaded it. The rest was spent in upgrading.
Consequence: I uninstalled it.

[psychotron666]

Publicado originalmente por Ps_TresTres:

Interesting. I thought the BG3 updates were small compared to Diablo 4 (which seemingly wants to install the whole game again).

The last update I had to do for bg3 was over 100gb. Basically the whole game

[Orion Invictus]

Where'd you hear that people in the US get good networks?

[EricHVela]

Publicado originalmente por omalinur:

Anyone like me who is fed up of these mega-download. Not everyone lives in Europe or USA and get a good network. It seems these developers have lost the notion of INCREMENTAL update. Whether Baldur Gate 3 or No Man's Sky or whatever, one has to download hundreds of Gb every month.
The situation: I have managed to play 5 min of BG3 since I downloaded it. The rest was spent in upgrading.
Consequence: I uninstalled it.

I feel for you when once having the worst DSL speeds ever from living out in the forests, but I lived with it. That's just the way things go: Forward only, and some people will get left behind for the advancement of the rest rather than being held back by us.

(The USA isn't covered by fast internet despite what your media leads you to believe.)

I don't feel sorry for you giving up. I never did, waiting for over a day for some things to download. Your choice. Your consequence, not Larian's or anyone else's.

(Trivia: You can still play other Steam games while things are downloading in Steam. It's a setting in the Steam client.)

[アンジェル]

Publicado originalmente por Orion Invictus:

Where'd you hear that people in the US get good networks?

From what I have heard people in the U.S. got free wi-fi everywhere, which is unimaginable over here due to limitations by law.

[Orion Invictus]

Publicado originalmente por アンジェル:

Publicado originalmente por Orion Invictus:

Where'd you hear that people in the US get good networks?

From what I have heard people in the U.S. got free wi-fi everywhere, which is unimaginable over here due to limitations by law.

And what's the download speed on those?

[EricHVela]

Publicado originalmente por Orion Invictus:

Publicado originalmente por アンジェル:

From what I have heard people in the U.S. got free wi-fi everywhere, which is unimaginable over here due to limitations by law.

And what's the download speed on those?

Usually, abysmal. Rarely, useable in gaming and blob-download situations. 1:1000000, fine.

Our gov-funded public Wi-Fi on campus goes down whenever there's a home football game and overloads the system. It used to be decent, but now that enrollment keeps skyrocketing every year, it's horrible. Even the cellular connections (voice/data) are awful in-town most of the year and worse during home games.

[Osmium]

I live in a small city in the US and up until last year or so my ISP put a strict bandwidth cap on how much data I could download in a month. It was the only reason I waited so long to play Cyberpunk 2077. I heard they had frequent large updates like BG3 is doing and I didn't want to be unable to use the internet for 2 weeks because one of my games updated.

There's plenty of places even in the "civilized" world that either don't have internet, have really slow internet, or have predatory ISP's because they know you don't have an alternative.

[Rommel]

Publicado originalmente por omalinur:

Anyone like me who is fed up of these mega-download. Not everyone lives in Europe or USA and get a good network. It seems these developers have lost the notion of INCREMENTAL update. Whether Baldur Gate 3 or No Man's Sky or whatever, one has to download hundreds of Gb every month.
The situation: I have managed to play 5 min of BG3 since I downloaded it. The rest was spent in upgrading.
Consequence: I uninstalled it.

Well you better upgrade your internet because unlike Bethesda... Larian updates their
games and supports them.

[アンジェル]

Publicado originalmente por EricHVela:

Publicado originalmente por Orion Invictus:

And what's the download speed on those?

Usually, abysmal. Rarely, useable in gaming and blob-download situations. 1:1000000, fine.

Our gov-funded public Wi-Fi on campus goes down whenever there's a home football game and overloads the system. It used to be decent, but now that enrollment keeps skyrocketing every year, it's horrible. Even the cellular connections (voice/data) are awful in-town most of the year and worse during home games.

Good to know. The only impression I can get from TV etc. is that everyone in the U.S. seems to be connected and everyone have better internet speed on the go than what I have at home via cable connection.

[Orion Invictus]

Publicado originalmente por Osmium:

I live in a small city in the US and up until last year or so my ISP put a strict bandwidth cap on how much data I could download in a month. It was the only reason I waited so long to play Cyberpunk 2077. I heard they had frequent large updates like BG3 is doing and I didn't want to be unable to use the internet for 2 weeks because one of my games updated.

There's plenty of places even in the "civilized" world that either don't have internet, have really slow internet, or have predatory ISP's because they know you don't have an alternative.

Perfect example of what I mean. In 2024, the US still has data caps, which is basically unheard of in the rest of the "civilized world", as this person put it.

[ChuckyDontCare]

Publicado originalmente por Osmium:

I live in a small city in the US and up until last year or so my ISP put a strict bandwidth cap on how much data I could download in a month. It was the only reason I waited so long to play Cyberpunk 2077. I heard they had frequent large updates like BG3 is doing and I didn't want to be unable to use the internet for 2 weeks because one of my games updated.

There's plenty of places even in the "civilized" world that either don't have internet, have really slow internet, or have predatory ISP's because they know you don't have an alternative.

This is true and even with all those caveats, there would likely be no broadband coverage at all in those areas without Federal subsidies.
The US pays the highest broadband/wireless data rates in the world, mostly due to lack of competition. You either go with the dominant player or settle for something substandard like satellite.

[Ettanin]

Publicado originalmente por Orion Invictus:

Perfect example of what I mean. In 2024, the US still has data caps, which is basically unheard of in the rest of the "civilized world", as this person put it.

In Germany, data caps are still the norm for users that have to rely on cellular data (4G LTE or 5G)

[Orion Invictus]

Publicado originalmente por アンジェル:

Publicado originalmente por EricHVela:

Usually, abysmal. Rarely, useable in gaming and blob-download situations. 1:1000000, fine.

Our gov-funded public Wi-Fi on campus goes down whenever there's a home football game and overloads the system. It used to be decent, but now that enrollment keeps skyrocketing every year, it's horrible. Even the cellular connections (voice/data) are awful in-town most of the year and worse during home games.

Good to know. The only impression I can get from TV etc. is that everyone in the U.S. seems to be connected and everyone have better internet speed on the go than what I have at home via cable connection.

Propaganda/Myth. The US's infrastructure sucks. It's particularly bad because one party keeps opposing any investments in infrastructure and wants the government to collapse. In my country I can get 1 Gbps for less than the price of 100 Mbps in the US. It's absurd.

[Orion Invictus]

Publicado originalmente por Ettanin:

Publicado originalmente por Orion Invictus:

Perfect example of what I mean. In 2024, the US still has data caps, which is basically unheard of in the rest of the "civilized world", as this person put it.

In Germany, data caps are still the norm for users that have to rely on cellular data (4G LTE or 5G)

We're obviously talking about data caps for your home connection here, not cellphones.

[アンジェル]

Publicado originalmente por Ettanin:

Publicado originalmente por Orion Invictus:

Perfect example of what I mean. In 2024, the US still has data caps, which is basically unheard of in the rest of the "civilized world", as this person put it.

In Germany, data caps are still the norm for users that have to rely on cellular data (4G LTE or 5G)

For cable users as well. It is in the fineprint where it says it gets throttled down to 100Kb/s after reaching certain milestone volumes, depending on the cointract.